Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

[Dweirdo]

Hi all :D
ok last 2 weeks after buying a whole new rig, couldn't get it over 3.2 ghz.
ill write all my tries, my rig, and my bios.

this is my rig:
Intel C2D E7300 with zalman 8700.
Gigabyte p45-ds3r
Corsair DHX XMS 2 800 MHZ CL 4 2GB*2
sapphire 4870X2 @ 55%fan 44 Celcius.
Enermax Modu82+ 625W, ENERMAX uber chakra 25cm fan.
T240 24"


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.2Ghz


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400MHz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz <--Always 100!!

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive...........................:800 -->>>> Didnt touch those
PCI Express Clock Drive.................:900 -->>>> Didnt touch those
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................:Leave at Auto or 0 -->>>> Didnt touch those
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................:50-100ps -->>>> Didnt touch those(AKA DONT KNOW WHAT 2 PUT here,AKA these are not my values, consider this empty)


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.0d
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]


Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Auto
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:AUTO
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........:Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............:Auto
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............:Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:1.9V

DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]


my tries.
1.3 9*378prime fail
1.3 8.5 *400, BSOD.
1.33 8.5*400 prime fail after 4 sec.
1.36 8.5*400 checking at prime.
v stock at 300mhz *10 fine :D
alot more tries which just failed,im not quite good with mb\memo cores and stuff, what should i do?!
please help me people :<

P.S
writing this post i just got prime fail again at 1.31 8*400 :|

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Bumping, please help me :<

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Forgot to mention i run 10f bios.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Auto Memory timings is your issue. Try this for 3.2 and then you will be better able to work your way up >>>

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.24


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 405Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 810
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................4/5
tRP'...........................................4/5
tRAS..........................................12/15/18

Set all highest below first then lower later

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-5
tWTR..........................................3-6 (8-12 first)
tWR............................................4-6 (8-14 first)
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ 800 or 1066

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:9-12
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:9-12
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.325 (What you set here is likely .6 or so less, keep that in mind)

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.34
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5-1.6
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9-2.0 (See your ram sticker, you may need 2.0-2.1)

DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[shiplombo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

you probably need to up the MCH Core to 1.2 or so. Also bumping the RAM voltage up a bit couldnt hurt.
Last night I was doing a suicide run on my e6600 (with the same mobo and bios as yours) and hit 3.6ghz at approx 1.375 vcore/1.24v MCH core/2.0v ram. My chip runs too hot at that temp but it was prime stable. 1.1v MCH core is too low when youre running at that high FSB

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

going to reboot now, by saying "Leave" u mean Leave it on "auto"?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Yeah Auto or normal, Auto for now

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

ok done everything and it failed to boot, and loaded stock settings :<
some things i wasn't sure:
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0
that were the settings, so i didnt touch it, is that ok?

everything that's about timings, i've set to the highest, i.e 12\15\18 i've put 18.

tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

these in channel A where all set to auto,i mean all the phases,though the DIMM where -600ps and +700ps so i set them on auto as it's written here.
channel b was crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, all the things that i should have not touched them weren't as you wrote, AUTO, they were specified (i.e +1 normal) or something like that, so i didn't touch those,let's see whats more hmm.
dram voltage 2.0
mch 1.28

termination 1.3
ppl 1.56(ithink)
reference 0.848
didnt have reference 2.

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ 800 or 1066

i had it in channel a, as well as channel b,it's on 800.

still no go, what am i doing wrong?

and thank you so much for your help LSD!!!!

shiplombo, here i just tried higher volts and still no go XD

EDIT:
going to sleep now,will check ur post tomorrow,thx alot :D, i hope the thread won't get buried, good night :D

[BongWizard]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

try changing the frequency latch to 333MHz and increasing the MCH clock skew to 100ps and leave your timings really loose until you get it stable

also, i'd have a look at that PSU... the 4870x2 is a massive card and uses alot of power... then when you consider you're using an older c2d CPU and increasing the voltage for an OC and then putting under full load in Prime95, you're gonna be drawing ALOT of power... if it was me, i'd want a PSU at least 700W in that situation... its probably not the issue, but im just throwing it out there

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

You may want to set MCH to Auto, and then choose a memory multi with B or D on it, the latch can be tricky until you get one boot thru with your manually set timings

Try again, using Auto, 333 and 400. When you test this change on that and reboot.

I would say try 400 again, and use these >>>

555-18

tRRD...........................................6
tWTR..........................................12
tWR............................................14
tRFC...........................................68
tRTP...........................................6

Static tRead Value A & B .............. 10

CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.39 Or more set in BIOS
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.34
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5-1.6
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.30
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< .90-.93
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< 1.0-1.05
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.6-1.65
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.2-1.4

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9-2.0 (See your ram sticker, you may need 2.0-2.1)

You can lower things later once you get going, and I think the above may be true about your card and PSU. Which I why I just suggested trying the extra SB Voltages

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

this PSU is a Modular one, and stands by the recommendations of amd-ati.
my system produce 400w under full load, 225w left, so its hell of alot headroom for OC.
im gonna try these cores and timings when im back from school,
so if i understood it right, i should leave the mch latch at 400, what is this latch for?
ok so the changing from last time will be|(correct me if im wrong):
all the cores, timings, mch skew 100ps instead of 0 and mch latch 400(as last time)\333\auto.
isn't that weird, that it didnt even boot?
maybe i have a bad chip :< anyways im gonna fight it as i did thse past 2 weeks.

Thank you alot for your help guys, ill check updates in 5 hours(school).

EDIT:
just noticed something about my RAM, i've tried 2.0v, maybe i need 2.1? but i'm abit afraid about it, though they are very good ram with an excellent cooler, what is the timing table in CPU-Z under SPD, i have there 3 options, 2 of them have 1.8 v(5-5-5-18\4-4-4-13(12)) and 2.1v (4-4-4-12) :| wtf XD

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Well, what about the rails? What does your card require for the 12V rail for amps, and what does your PSU output?

If it is a dual rail then you could likely have a issue with it and that card. A Strong Single rail is best

MCH latch is the FSB timing

Ya, you want to use 2.1 then since your SPD has it in there!!! WTF is right!

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

Well, what about the rails? What does your card require for the 12V rail for amps, and what does your PSU output?

If it is a dual rail then you could likely have a issue with it and that card. A Strong Single rail is best

MCH latch is the FSB timing

Ya, you want to use 2.1 then since your SPD has it in there!!! WTF is right!

well by looking here its 3 rails each one @25a , combined 50a,the card needs approx 26-30 i think.
so what timings should i try? 4-4-4-12 at 2.1v ot 5-5-5-18 at 2.1v?
and just something i've just remembered i dont have the option VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGY.

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

ok just tried to do all the settings u've told me , with 2.1v.
and it just didnt boot...again... what could be wrong?
some notes:
i dont have the option for ICH CORE, just MCH.
mch clock skew, should i touch it? cause this ske and cpu skew is on 0, and the first 2 are 800 and 900 respectively.
wow i think im a dead end, its probably the worst case u had xDD, i think my pc is cursed, i'll try to sue my STORE.
and thank you very much for ur help.
EDIT:
EVEREST SHOWS DIMM 1.9 :O although im on stock again ><(1.8).

[Dweirdo]

Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :&lt;

ok i tried this thing,listen carefully.
loaded optimized settings, so everything default, but the only change i've done was setting the timings, BAM!!! it didnt boot!!!! so this is why my pc doesnt boot, its ram related!! what should i do?
now the next thing was kinda terrifing.
didn't touch timings and such, just basic stuff, pci,performance standart and stuff, bumped vcore to 1.35, 400*8, mch core 1.34
and damn igot a heart attacke , after it did restart by its own (saved changes and exit) it started beeping rapidly , bipbipbip (2bips every second) swithough slowing down(not as heart pulse, i mean the rythem is the same between every bip).
what's wrong now? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

this is my RAM:

http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX.pdf

wow im really sorry for all those posts, im just really desperate!
thank you really :D
just found out:

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/memory/corsair_xms2_dhx_pc2-6400_4gb_kit/3

i've seen them using 2.3v :|||| that's insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee