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**Lsdmeasap** · 07-07-2008, 12:08 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Ram is to slow, and not enough. That is why it locks up on you

Likely the bigger of those two issues is that it is not enough ram.

Do you have your ram voltage at least set manually? If not please do so as AUTO often changes

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 01:03 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post

Ram is to slow, and not enough. That is why it locks up on you

Likely the bigger of those two issues is that it is not enough ram.

Do you have your ram voltage at least set manually? If not please do so as AUTO often changes

Ok... Now im testing this with 2x1gb 667Mhz, with 1,8v but i got the same problem. I have disable all usb devices, but doesnt works too. So i decided to test the cpu incresing slowly the clock, starting from 2,0Ghz. When i get 2,6Ghz, the system crashed again. So, there is some problem with this fsb? I will try to put more voltages at all, with this clock and see what happens. Thanks for the attention!

**Lsdmeasap** · 07-07-2008, 01:09 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Is that ram 1.8V or does it need more? And yeah you may need more CPU voltage to start overclocking. What CPU is it?

More voltages is not always the answer, but if you want to try that just keep them to a minimum. Also, to overclock and be stable you need to disable EIST, and C1E

What settings are you using >>>

Just a template I use to ask people there settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [450]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [102]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
Performance Enhance = [Standard]

CAS Latency Time________________ ?
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ ?
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______?
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ ?
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ ?
Rank Write to READ Delay________ ?
Write to Precharge Delay_________ ?
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ ?
Read to Precharge Delay__________ ?
Static tRead Value_______________ 1-31
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 1-31

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.25]

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 01:29 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post

Is that ram 1.8V or does it need more? And yeah you may need more CPU voltage to start overclocking. What CPU is it?

More voltages is not always the answer, but if you want to try that just keep them to a minimum. Also, to overclock and be stable you need to disable EIST, and C1E

What settings are you using >>>

Just a template I use to ask people there settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

Robust Graphics Booster_______AUTO____ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ______9______ [8]
CPU Host Clock Control_ENABLED [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_____333_____ [450]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)____100___ [102]
C.I.A. 2______________DISABLED____________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)__2.00__ [2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable____MANUAL___ SPD __ [Manual]
Performance Enhance = [Standard] STANDARD

CAS Latency Time_________5_______ ?
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay___5______ ?
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay___5____?
Precharge Delay (tRAS)_____15_____ ?
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_____4____ ?
Rank Write to READ Delay______4__ ?
Write to Precharge Delay_____6____ ?
Refresh to ACT Delay________38______ ?
Read to Precharge Delay______4____ ?
Static tRead Value__________10_____ 1-31
Static tRead Phase Adjust_____7___ 1-31

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control_+0.2_ [+0.300V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_+0.1 [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control__+0.1_ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.1 [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control____1.4___ [1.25][/quote]

This CPU is a E4300, stepping 2, revision L2. Anything wrong with this?

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 01:46 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Can be some driver? Like catalyst or other one?

**Lsdmeasap** · 07-07-2008, 02:01 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Yeah, it could be your driver, have you tried a older one?

Please repost that with ONLY your settings as I am not sure what you have set and what you have left from my post of it

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 02:15 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post

Yeah, it could be your driver, have you tried a older one?

Please repost that with ONLY your settings as I am not sure what you have set and what you have left from my post of it

Robust Graphics Booster_______AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio ______9
CPU Host Clock Control_ENABLED
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_____333_____
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)____100___
C.I.A. 2______________DISABLED____________
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)__2.00__
DRAM Timing Selectable____MANUAL___
Performance Enhance = STANDARD

CAS Latency Time_________5_______
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay___5______
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay___5____
Precharge Delay (tRAS)_____15_____
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_____4____
Rank Write to READ Delay______4__

Write to Precharge Delay_____6____
Refresh to ACT Delay________38______
Read to Precharge Delay______4____
Static tRead Value__________10_____
Static tRead Phase Adjust_____7___

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control_+0.2_
[COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]PCI[/COLOR][/COLOR]-E OverVoltage Control_+0.1
FSB OverVoltage Control__+0.1_
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.1
CPU Voltage Control____1.4___[/quote]

This CPU is a E4300, stepping 2, revision L2

I tried to put one old Catalyst, but crashed again. I downloaded the new chipset and raid driver, but still crash. What else i can do? Im almost giving up...

**Lsdmeasap** · 07-07-2008, 03:21 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Robust Graphics Booster_______AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio ______9
CPU Host Clock Control_ENABLED
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_____333_____
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)____100___
C.I.A. 2______________DISABLED____________
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)__2.00__
DRAM Timing Selectable____MANUAL___
Performance Enhance = STANDARD

CAS Latency Time_________5_______
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay___5______
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay___5____
Precharge Delay (tRAS)_____15_____

Are these below on AUTO, what you posted above for the below settings I mean? If so, what you see on the left when in AUTO is not always what the system uses, and I see issues here so best to manually set them as follows

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_____3-4
Rank Write to READ Delay______4-6 or 9-11
Write to Precharge Delay____3-5
Refresh to ACT Delay________38-42
Read to Precharge Delay______3-6
Static tRead Value__________7-10
Static tRead Phase Adjust_____0 <<< DO not set to a value, so set to AUTO, ZERO, or 1-31

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control_+0.2_ <<< This is 2.0, is that what your ram needs or 2.1?
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_+0.1
FSB OverVoltage Control__+0.1_
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.1
CPU Voltage Control____1.4___

Ya know, I have the same card, 256MB version. Your card's Voltage regulator may be overheating. Especially if you added a aftermarket cooler.

If you did not, can you install ATItools and set the fan to run at a higher speed (Do not use this for overclocking, if you do ever please go into Setting, then X1000 overclocking and check Use Driver Level Overclocking) >>>
ATITool_0.27b3.zip

To adjust fan speeds go to settings, fan control and set to Override fan speeds, and manually set them in a upwards level. Such as above 45 = 55%, above 50 = 65%, above 55 = 68%, above 63 = 72%. Something along those lines

Other then that, are you SURE your PSU gives enough power on the 12V rail? The requirement is very high for these cards, it is 28-30 >>>

450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail recommended

Radeon™ X1950 XTX - Specifications

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 03:52 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post

Robust Graphics Booster_______AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio ______9
CPU Host Clock Control_ENABLED
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_____333_____
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)____100___
C.I.A. 2______________DISABLED____________
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)__2.00__
DRAM Timing Selectable____MANUAL___
Performance Enhance = STANDARD

CAS Latency Time_________5_______
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay___5______
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay___5____
Precharge Delay (tRAS)_____15_____

Are these below on AUTO, what you posted above for the below settings I mean? If so, what you see on the left when in AUTO is not always what the system uses, and I see issues here so best to manually set them as follows

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_____3-4
Rank Write to READ Delay______4-6 or 9-11
Write to Precharge Delay____3-5
Refresh to ACT Delay________38-42
Read to Precharge Delay______3-6
Static tRead Value__________7-10
Static tRead Phase Adjust_____0 <<< DO not set to a value, so set to AUTO, ZERO, or 1-31

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control_+0.2_ <<< This is 2.0, is that what your ram needs or 2.1?
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_+0.1
FSB OverVoltage Control__+0.1_
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.1
CPU Voltage Control____1.4___

Ya know, I have the same card, 256MB version. Your card's Voltage regulator may be overheating. Especially if you added a aftermarket cooler.

If you did not, can you install ATItools and set the fan to run at a higher speed (Do not use this for overclocking, if you do ever please go into Setting, then X1000 overclocking and check Use Driver Level Overclocking) >>>
ATITool_0.27b3.zip

To adjust fan speeds go to settings, fan control and set to Override fan speeds, and manually set them in a upwards level. Such as above 45 = 55%, above 50 = 65%, above 55 = 68%, above 63 = 72%. Something along those lines

Other then that, are you SURE your PSU gives enough power on the 12V rail? The requirement is very high for these cards, it is 28-30 >>>

humm... This memory setup i just made a read of it on auto mode and put it a little bit more "relax" (understand?) But i guess this problem can be about memory, cause when i used the ram to run on 833 (333 fsb) i almost got to run the benchmark. Cause in other times the ram was on 667 without overclock, this is why i wasnt paying much attention to them. Run in 833 was an accident, i didnt put the multipler to slow speed. Now im trying to set them to run on 833, with 1,8, 1,9 and 2,0 volts (using memtest).
My vga is a X1950GT and my PSU has on 12v line 18+18A (i guess this is enought right?)

And thanks so much for the attention dude!!!

**Aleslammer** · 07-07-2008, 04:06 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

I just had that problem this weekend. I had played through the came a couple of times a few months back and have since added a new CPU and ram and reinstalled the OS. I loaded Crysis and patched 1.2 (played the 1.1 patch before). Started playing and arrived back at the boot screen after a few minutes. not thinking I playing with my system voltages and nothing seemed to work. Went on line and found the 1.21 patch and played for 4 hours without problem. My system never had a problem during the benchmark test and was 24 hours prime stable.

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 04:37 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Aleslammer View Post

I just had that problem this weekend. I had played through the came a couple of times a few months back and have since added a new CPU and ram and reinstalled the OS. I loaded Crysis and patched 1.2 (played the 1.1 patch before). Started playing and arrived back at the boot screen after a few minutes. not thinking I playing with my system voltages and nothing seemed to work. Went on line and found the 1.21 patch and played for 4 hours without problem. My system never had a problem during the benchmark test and was 24 hours prime stable.

But when you had this problem, you tried to put your system on stock? Cause here, i just crash when i try to overclock my system above 2,6ghz. Im downloading the patch right now, i hope this solve my problem. Thanks!

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 04:43 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Now i tried to run 3dMark 2001 and crash too.... Can be something on windows? I will reinstall right now!

**Aleslammer** · 07-07-2008, 05:20 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Go to Guru3D and download driver sweeper, uninstall your video driver and reboot run driver sweeper to remove all the debris left by your older driver, then install the latest driver for your card. You say you've past some stress test at your desred clock but they should be tested longer than a few hours, 12 hours not uncommon and alot test for 24.

**lc_ss** · 07-07-2008, 05:28 PM

Re: Problems under P35 DS3 only on games

Originally posted by Aleslammer View Post

Go to Guru3D and download driver sweeper, uninstall your video driver and reboot run driver sweeper to remove all the debris left by your older driver, then install the latest driver for your card. You say you've past some stress test at your desred clock but they should be tested longer than a few hours, 12 hours not uncommon and alot test for 24.

Ok, im doing this. I restarted the winxp now and try to test everything here again. After this, i will post here again. Thanks again!

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