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    ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Hello my friends,

    I have this setup but my CPU temperature is really high which causes my computer to stall when playing games. Could people with similar components please share bios settings? Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Here's my setup:






    Motherboard - ASrock FM2A88X-itx+
    CPU - AMD 7850K
    RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
    GPU: XFX R7 250 2GB DDR3 LOW PROFILE
    CASE: Antec ISK 310-150
    CPU Cooler: Scythe Kozuti Low Profile.
    OS: Windows 8.1
    Bios: v2.10


    My Idle temp is 60-70c
    I use the default UEFI settings.

    Just in case someone thinks it's the case being too small problem I've even tested it while case is open and without the extra GPU.


    Thanks in advance
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  • #2
    Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    1. No OC applied while "hot'?

    2. What's the memory running at speed/MHz wise? And too, are they setup in the BIOS using their XMP profile(s) or did you set the 4 main timings manually?
    #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
    ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


    #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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    • #3
      Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

      Originally posted by slekkas View Post
      I have this setup but my CPU temperature is really high which causes my computer to stall when playing games. Could people with similar components please share bios settings?
      Share and share alike, but the point I never get is why when some asks to share that they didn't post theirs. Thus leading to the questions I needed to ask above.

      It's super simple to take BIOS screenshots and post them here. From within the BIOS, with a USB stick in a Bolton native USB 2.0 port, pressing F12 will capture an amazing screenie of what is displayed on the monitor and save it to the root of the USB drive. When that particular BIOS page has more hidden lower simply scroll down and press F12 again. Thus ensuring all that pages info gets captured and posted.

      60-70c at idle is high. What fan is on the cooler? Does it have a fan, or is it a passive cooler? I didn't look.
      #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
      ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


      #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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      • #4
        Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

        Originally posted by - wardog - View Post
        Share and share alike, but the point I never get is why when some asks to share that they didn't post theirs. Thus leading to the questions I needed to ask above.

        It's super simple to take BIOS screenshots and post them here. From within the BIOS, with a USB stick in a Bolton native USB 2.0 port, pressing F12 will capture an amazing screenie of what is displayed on the monitor and save it to the root of the USB drive. When that particular BIOS page has more hidden lower simply scroll down and press F12 again. Thus ensuring all that pages info gets captured and posted.

        60-70c at idle is high. What fan is on the cooler? Does it have a fan, or is it a passive cooler? I didn't look.
        Thanks for telling me how to get the screenshots. I will immediately get them and post them. The CPU cooler has a fan, from what I read the Scythe kozuti is a pretty decent cooler. The memory I have set with profile at 2400.

        Edit: Bios screenshots:






        Last edited by slekkas; 03-18-2014, 02:41 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

          Welcome to the forum.

          The reviews at FrostyTech and SilentPcReview are pretty good for a 40mm tall, 1.5U low profile heatsink.
          As with any cpu cooling setup the cooling ability varies with fan speed.

          Can you report the cpu fan speeds and cpu temperatures while you are gaming?
          The most important measurements will the the values shortly before your system "stalls".

          Possible causes are fan speeds that are too low or the base of the heat-sink isn't making full contact with the top of the cpu.
          When you installed the cooler did you gradually tighten the 4 screws using a crisscross "X" pattern?
          Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
          P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
          4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
          MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
          Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
          WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
          Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
          SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI          		 Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
          Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
          Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
          MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
          Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
          HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
          CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
          E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
          Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
          Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
          HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S          .

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          • #6
            Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

            Originally posted by profJim View Post
            Welcome to the forum.

            The reviews at FrostyTech and SilentPcReview are pretty good for a 40mm tall, 1.5U low profile heatsink.
            As with any cpu cooling setup the cooling ability varies with fan speed.

            Can you report the cpu fan speeds and cpu temperatures while you are gaming?
            The most important measurements will the the values shortly before your system "stalls".

            Possible causes are fan speeds that are too low or the base of the heat-sink isn't making full contact with the top of the cpu.
            When you installed the cooler did you gradually tighten the 4 screws using a crisscross "X" pattern?
            I've already checked that out and my temp just before the system freezes is around 93c. About the cpu cooler setup I am actually thinking that maybe I did something wrong but since I don't have any cpu paste handy I can't test it. I ordered some IC Diamond 24 Carat paste and waiting to receive it tomorrow or the day after and then I'll try to re-seat my cooler. I did though do it the right "X" way since i'm no beginner but you never know...

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            • #7
              Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

              What is the brand and model name/number of your power supply?

              The 11.616 12 volt reading at idle isn't very good.
              The 12 volt specification is plus or minus 5%.
              This means that the allowable voltage range is 11.40 to 12.60 volts.
              Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
              P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
              4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
              MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
              Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
              WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
              Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
              SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI              		 Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
              Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
              Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
              MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
              Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
              HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
              CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
              E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
              Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
              Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
              HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S              .

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              • #8
                Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                Originally posted by profJim View Post
                What is the brand and model name/number of your power supply?

                The 11.616 12 volt reading at idle isn't very good.
                The 12 volt specification is plus or minus 5%.
                This means that the allowable voltage range is 11.40 to 12.60 volts.
                Here's my PSU:

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                • #9
                  Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                  Originally posted by slekkas View Post
                  Here's my PSU:
                  [pic removed while replying]

                  Gad zoooks man. Ummm, you need a better/higher output PSU!

                  And profJim, if the idle is 60-70c, knowing gaming temps is really rather redundant.
                  #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
                  ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


                  #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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                  • #10
                    Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                    Phew. 150w psu just ain't gonna cut it here and may very well be contributing to your temp issues.

                    In that last screenie, "CPU 1 Fan Settings: Standard" , what options do you have there available in the pulldown under "Standard"? This, CPU 1, I assume is where you have the coolers fan plugged.

                    hehe, did I mention you need a better pSU?
                    #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
                    ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


                    #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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                    • #11
                      Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                      More.

                      Disable the on-die GPU, "Onboard Grapics" in BIOS if you're not using it, but instead are using that R7 PCI-E card as the BIOS shows is also set for.
                      Last edited by - wardog -; 03-18-2014, 03:24 PM. Reason: typo's
                      #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
                      ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


                      #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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                      • #12
                        Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                        Originally posted by - wardog - View Post
                        More.

                        Disable the on-die GPU, "Onboard Grapics" in BIOS if you're not using it, but instead are using that R7 PCI-E card as the BIOS shows is also set for.
                        I was actually hoping to use dual graphics so I didn't disable it. I do have the CPU fan plugged in CPU1. I have tried to put it to maximum but it had small difference. The PSU part makes me confuse. I understand why a too small PSU would cause the pc to be unstable and reboot etc but why would it cause overheat??? Is there a better PSU on the market I can get for the Antec or would I have to change the whole case?

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                        • #13
                          Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                          The R7 250(65w draw std 250) alone is recommended a 300w PSU, and that 300w rec doesn't even take into acct the remaining systems power needs.

                          Ohhhhh, don't even start up with talking of dual graphics till you get a more robust and more fitting PSU. The one you have now the R7 draws appx half the available rail as it stands. And that's not accounting for this 150w PSU straining now to output whats demanded. Meaning my guess is the air blowing out the pSU's exhaust has to be, just has to be I'll venture, rather warm.

                          To say you're over-taxing that Antec 150w PSU, in your computers current config, will be the understatement of the year.
                          #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
                          ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.


                          #2 - Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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                          • #14
                            Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                            From XFX - United Kingdom - AMD Radeon? R7 250
                            Requirements:
                            Minimum Power Supply Requirement : 400 watt


                            With a dual video card setup, you probably need a 650 - 750 watt power supply.

                            Go to eXtreme Power Supply Calculator and take the time to fill in all of the information to help determine how powerful your power supply needs to be.

                            Then you need to read psu reviews from JonnyGuru, HardOCP, HardwareSecrets, PCPER or TechPowerUp to see which power supplies get their recommendation.
                            Most psu review sites do a poor job evaluating power supplies.

                            Copied from wardog's signature, item #3:
                            Consider your PSU to be the foundation upon which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

                            my comment: I'd never build a nice house on a crummy foundation.
                            Last edited by profJim; 03-18-2014, 03:57 PM.
                            Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                            P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                            4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI                            		 Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                            E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                            HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S                            .

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                            • #15
                              Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

                              Thank you guys, I will try all of the above recommendations you have mentioned and get back to you.

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