775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

[firebird-jpx]

Dear Sirs,

I am using a 775i65G R3.0 and I am unable to see a list of compatible APG's. I am currently using a ASUS n6800 512MB, but windows shows it at 3.1 level, which I consider to be quite low.

I have tried to search on here for compatible APG list but unable to see such. Please can someone let me know the above.

Thanks in advance for any input.

Regards, Jonathan

[profJim]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Welcome to the forum.
Are you looking for a list of compatible AGP video cards?

ASRock > 775i65G R3.0 Specifications lists: 1 x AGP slot for 1.5V 8X/4X AGP card

In your motherboard user manual, it says:

Expansion Slot
- 3 x PCI slots
- 1 x AGP slot for 1.5V 8X/4X AGP card (see CAUTION 6)

CAUTION!
1. FSB1066-CPU is supported only when you install AGP VGA card into AGP
slot. Besides, if you use a FSB1066-CPU on this motherboard, please
adopt a DDR400 CL2.5 memory module.

6. Do NOT use a 3.3V AGP card on the AGP slot of this motherboard!
It may cause permanent damage!

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear ProfJim,

Thank you for your reply, so does that mean I can buy ANY AGP on the market as long, as I keep to 1.5V 8X/4X card?

I say 'any' above because the AsRock's website R1.0 and I think R2.0 of my motherboard, provided a list of compatible GPU's and AGP's.

Clarification would be appreciated, Jonathan

[profJim]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

You're welcome.
You should be fine with any mainstream AGP video card that meets ASRock's 1.5V 8X/4X requirement.
It's probably best to avoid very high end professional or workstation AGP video cards.
I won't try to guess why ASRock didn't create a supported video card list for your newer motherboard version.
Apparently they felt that any AGP card that would meet their requirement is safe and should work OK.

Accelerated Graphics Port - Wikipedia has a lot of information that covers specifications, compatibility and version information.

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear ProfJim,

Thank you for your reply again :-), if you were me what top three graphics cards would you recommend (please state in order 1st, 2nd, and 3rd)?

Also, I thought my Nivdia GeForce 6800 512mb would have been a good one but Windows 7, says otherwise.... Or is it that I have not optimised it correctly?

With thanks and kind regards, Jonathan

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear Honguqia,

What's Brilliant???

[profJim]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Which Nvidia driver version did you install?
How is win7 complaining? Include specific details.
Does win7's device manager show any errors for your video card? If yes, what is the error code.

Go to Drivers | GeForce and click on Auto-Detect Your GPU and note which driver version it recommends. If this version is different from the one you are running, download the recommended version and do a clean install so that your current driver version is replaced.

I can't recommend which video card model might be best.
We don't know what your video needs are, such as light/moderate/heavy gaming, and we don't know the full details of your hardware setup. My personal experience with AGP video cards was a long time ago where I used FX5xxx cards for everyday use.

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your input and support, I have today received from AsRock Technical Services, in which they advise ANY 4x/8x APG will work.



Although I have a definite answer from AsRock, I would still be keen to establish the best mid/high APG I should go for (as previously asked), what top three graphics cards would be recommend (please state in order 1st, 2nd, and 3rd).

ProfJim asked me for my PC specs, they are as follows:

[profJim]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Here are some suggestions from 2007: TOP 5 AGP CARDS - Graphics Cards - Graphics & Displays
Here are 2 lists for AGP and PCI video cards that are currently available on my side of the pond:
Newegg.com - Desktop Graphics Cards, AGP 4X/8X
Newegg.com - Desktop Graphics Cards, PCI

Check Tom's Hardware for older video card heirarchy lists that rank cards by overall performance.
In Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart - Best Graphics Cards For The Money: May 2013, I found:

Discrete: 6800 GS (AGP)
Go (mobile): 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 8600M GT, 8700M GT, 410M

near the middle of the page. I don't know if this meas that the 6800 GS (Ultra) card is the best (and only) AGP card.
I think that you need to avoid Quadro models as these might only work with a workstaion motherboard models.

You might find that some PCI cards might have better performance than AGP cards.
I didn't check the AGP list for 1.5 volt versus 3.3 volt models and I don't know how well your motherboard will perform with a high end PCI video card.
You will need to read old video card reviews to see which card will offer the best performance.

Attached are my P35 WEI scores with an EVGA 7600GT pci-e video card.

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear ProfJim,

Will a PCI or PCIe graphics card work on my motherboard? Or, is it strictly VGA ONLY?

Regards, Jonathan

[profJim]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

You can't use a PCIe video card because your motherboard does not have any PCIe slots.
You have one AGP slot and three PCI slots.
Page 17 says: PCI slots: The PCI slots are used to install expansion cards that have the 32-bit PCI interface.
I think that you should be able to use any PCI video card, but I don't know if the feature would cause any problems with a PCI video card.

I'm not sure what you mean by VGA ONLY.
I think that I ran some PCI video cards in my older AGP systems, but I've never used an ASRock motherboard.
Have you found any PCI video cards that have higher performance than AGP video cards?

In post #1 is the 3.1 score from the windows WEI benchmark?
My WEI score is with a 7600GT PCIe video card and I don't know how this compares to an AGP or PCI video card.
My P35 motherboard has one PCIe x16 slot, three PCIe x1 slots and 3 PCI slots.
I don't think that I ever ran a PCI video card in my P35 system.
I think, but I'm not sure that the earliest PCIe video card slots had superior performance compared to a similar card in an AGP or PCI slot.

Send a private message (PM) to ASRock TSD - Emily, include a link to this thread, and ask her if your motherboard will support any or all PCI video cards instead of installing an AGP video card.

[firebird-jpx]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

Dear ProfJim,

Thank you for the reply and contact point with AsRock, I will give Emily a mal and let you know the outcome??

Kind regards, Jonathan

[Shiari]

Re: 775i65G R3.0 compatible apg list

I can't think of a reason you wouldn't be able to use a PCI graphics adapter, but AGP would be faster anyway as it was made to be faster than PCI. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP:

As computers increasingly became graphically oriented, successive generations of graphics adapters began to push the limits of PCI, a bus with shared bandwidth. This led to the development of AGP, a "bus" dedicated to graphics adapters.

The primary advantage of AGP over PCI is that it provides a dedicated pathway between the slot and the processor rather than sharing the PCI bus. In addition to a lack of contention for the bus, the direct connection allows for higher clock speeds. AGP also uses sideband addressing, meaning that the address and data buses are separated so the entire packet does not need to be read to get addressing information. This is done by adding eight extra 8-bit buses which allow the graphics controller to issue new AGP requests and commands at the same time with other AGP data flowing via the main 32 address/data (AD) lines. This results in improved overall AGP data throughput.

In addition, to load a texture, a PCI graphics card must copy it from the system's RAM into the card's Video memory, whereas an AGP card is capable of reading textures directly from system RAM using the graphics address remapping table, which reapportions main memory as needed for texture storage, allowing the graphics card to access them directly.[2] The maximum amount of system memory available to AGP is defined as the AGP aperture.