witch is better cuz i wanna buy one i run in AGP, 6600,6600GT,6800,X1600, pro x700,etc
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6800GS is probably the best bang for the buck with AGP.GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
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if i am not mistaken the x1600 pro and the 6800 gs only had a 5% performance difference between the two in favor of ati. in my most humble opinion, i personally like nvidia solely because of the drivers. i find that their driver support is significantly better than ati's...and i believe that that 5% could easily be given up for better hardware support.
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u can grab a 6800gt,or even 6800ultra now for under $250-$200.....heh i sold my 6800ultra 8 months ago or so i had laying in my closet i never got rid of for $200.X1600 Pro is a mere 9600pro,as is x1800 is a 9800pro(diff mem,bumped gpu core)x700pro is horrible(read up on it)the games all say meant to played on nvidia because unlike ati,nvidia actually talk closely to the game developers:hence nvidias drivers are always right on point.6800 series or better,nothing less....its 2006Stacker830 Watercooled
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Originally posted by bf2nutu can grab a 6800gt,or even 6800ultra now for under $250-$200.....heh i sold my 6800ultra 8 months ago or so i had laying in my closet i never got rid of for $200.X1600 Pro is a mere 9600pro,as is x1800 is a 9800pro(diff mem,bumped gpu core)x700pro is horrible(read up on it)the games all say meant to played on nvidia because unlike ati,nvidia actually talk closely to the game developers:hence nvidias drivers are always right on point.6800 series or better,nothing less....its 2006
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Originally posted by Yawgm0thA 6800GS is almost identical to a 6800GT or Ultra and it's better than either with overclocking and it's much cheaper. You'd have to be crazy to buy either for over $200 when 6800GS top out around $190.
6800GS(fast)=12 pipes 3dmark 05 = ?6800(gs?) says 3,564..lil faster then 6600gt...wow?
6800gt(way faster)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =4,790
6800ultra(fastest if u can find 1)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =5,218
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/...vii/page4.html <-read
enough said,read many,many posts guys are desperatly failing to unlock the gs to all 16 pipes,hmmm whys that?another thing,card companys disable pipes becasue the extra pipes failed ,and they lower the price and sell them as differnt model.yeah i wanna unlock broken pipes? spend another $40-$50 for a card that has true\tested 16 full pipes 6 vertex shaders(gt has 5)ummmm k save your$50 and hate yourself after u buy it.man i glad im hear to help,im not gonna let this dude think that a gt\ultra are identical to a gs,lmao man plz stop doing this to these ppl.notice s before t as in gs.then gt?this kid is gonna buy that gs and be on here in a week like"kjblblhblknb lkb"shoulda spent the $40-$50 more.u get what u pay for.having another 4 pipes is like 25 percent boost overall fps,benchmarking(3dmark etc)there not the same!!!.dont worry guys im here.plz ask me.Last edited by bf2nut; 03-21-2006, 08:19 PM.Stacker830 Watercooled
windows7 ultimate 64 bit!!!
Heatkiller waterblock on intel 2500k @4.5Ghz @1.32volt
8 gigs Gskill Ripjaw ddr3 2133 @ 1.5 volts
Swiftech p655 pump,1\2 tygon
13x120 sunnons on lamptron fc3 controller,
(2)triple 120mm rads.single raptor 150(reliable)
biostar TP67XE(this mobo is amazing)
xfi-xtrememusic,klipsch ultras 5.1/500 watt amp,
sen hd-595s headphones,logitech stick mic
co0lermaster-1250 watt real pro powersupply = 99ampz!
Evga Hydro Gtx 590 on 24"Sony FW-900 at 2304x1440 80 hz = 80 solid fps 16:10 black ops!
Hi quality CRTS are built for gaming!!!O.L.E.D is the future,not Liquid Crap Displays(lcds)!
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stay away from the 512MB version of the x1600 pro unless you just need the extra video RAM, why well its clocked a lot slower than on the 256MB card. i think its 800mhz GDDR3 256bit vs. 540mhz GDDR2 128bit. the extra video RAM does make Windows Vista run better with all the Aero/Glass eye candy turned on.
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Originally posted by bf2nutdude identical?lets see
6800GS(fast)=12 pipes 3dmark 05 = ?6800(gs?) says 3,564..lil faster then 6600gt...wow?
6800gt(way faster)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =4,790
6800ultra(fastest if u can find 1)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =5,218
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/...vii/page4.html <-read
also, you say nvidia have "the way its meant to be played" youre right, but its the developers that talk to nvidia, not vice versa. that way, the developers get the most out of nvidia as well.
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Originally posted by MunkulDUDE, then different reveiws of different manufacturers give different results. the gs is apparantly incredibly overclockable.
also, you say nvidia have "the way its meant to be played" youre right, but its the developers that talk to nvidia, not vice versa. that way, the developers get the most out of nvidia as well.
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hmmmm nothing about nvidia there i see?nvidia was side by side with ea and dice the whole time and currently during bf2 progress.ati was trying to overclock that r580 core,lol.and they made a nice x1900xtx tho,to bad it cant handle hi resolutions.Stacker830 Watercooled
windows7 ultimate 64 bit!!!
Heatkiller waterblock on intel 2500k @4.5Ghz @1.32volt
8 gigs Gskill Ripjaw ddr3 2133 @ 1.5 volts
Swiftech p655 pump,1\2 tygon
13x120 sunnons on lamptron fc3 controller,
(2)triple 120mm rads.single raptor 150(reliable)
biostar TP67XE(this mobo is amazing)
xfi-xtrememusic,klipsch ultras 5.1/500 watt amp,
sen hd-595s headphones,logitech stick mic
co0lermaster-1250 watt real pro powersupply = 99ampz!
Evga Hydro Gtx 590 on 24"Sony FW-900 at 2304x1440 80 hz = 80 solid fps 16:10 black ops!
Hi quality CRTS are built for gaming!!!O.L.E.D is the future,not Liquid Crap Displays(lcds)!
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Originally posted by bf2nutdude identical?lets see
6800GS(fast)=12 pipes 3dmark 05 = ?6800(gs?) says 3,564..lil faster then 6600gt...wow?
6800gt(way faster)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =4,790
6800ultra(fastest if u can find 1)=16 pipes 3dmark 05 =5,218
Identical performance, and the 6800GS overclocked (nevermind pipe unlocking) can near 6800 Ultra performance and surpass it with a well-cooled card.
Now this is perhaps the most rediculous argument I've participated in throughout the entirety of 2006. Anyone who thinks a 6800GT is "way faster" ither does not pay attention to hardware or has poor reading comprehension. I won't continue having little fights over data you post which are blatantly erroneous. I'll simply resume deletion of posts.
Originally posted by bf2nuthmmmm nothing about nvidia there i see?nvidia was side by side with ea and dice the whole time and currently during bf2 progress.ati was trying to overclock that r580 core,lol.and they made a nice x1900xtx tho,to bad it cant handle hi resolutions.
Uh-huh... Even though in BF2 it beats the 7900GTX in every resolution and is playable at every resolution, all the way up to 2048x1536? Even though it beats or ties a 7900GTX in every other game in every resolution. Yeah, it just can't handle those high resolutions. Nevermind Crossfire and SLI. Prohibitevely expensive for almost everyone, and I wouldn't even consider Crossfire.
You've been blinded by your fanatical devotion to nVidia. I know quite a few religious fanatics who are more open-minded about "competitors products" (if you will) than you are.
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Originally posted by Munkulagreed with yawg completely.
oh yeah, and a 7900gtx is supposed to be hardly better than a 7800gtx, apart from FEAR - the beta drver is supposed to give massive framerate increases.
this is quoted from the review here at tweaktown that i read and orderd the same night i read it....i didnt type that some admin here did doing the review,there facts,not my opinons sir.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/880...gtx/index.html
3dmarks-heh 1,500+ higher on average,512 ram, i,ll take it.badger me all u want thats fine.Last edited by bf2nut; 03-23-2006, 11:05 PM.Stacker830 Watercooled
windows7 ultimate 64 bit!!!
Heatkiller waterblock on intel 2500k @4.5Ghz @1.32volt
8 gigs Gskill Ripjaw ddr3 2133 @ 1.5 volts
Swiftech p655 pump,1\2 tygon
13x120 sunnons on lamptron fc3 controller,
(2)triple 120mm rads.single raptor 150(reliable)
biostar TP67XE(this mobo is amazing)
xfi-xtrememusic,klipsch ultras 5.1/500 watt amp,
sen hd-595s headphones,logitech stick mic
co0lermaster-1250 watt real pro powersupply = 99ampz!
Evga Hydro Gtx 590 on 24"Sony FW-900 at 2304x1440 80 hz = 80 solid fps 16:10 black ops!
Hi quality CRTS are built for gaming!!!O.L.E.D is the future,not Liquid Crap Displays(lcds)!
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You're both right and wrong at the same time. I believe Munkul was referring to a 512MB 7800GTX, while you and the Tweaktown article refer to 256MB GTXs. The difference between the 7800GTX512 and the 7800GTX is like a 6800GT to a 6800, but a 7900GTX to a 7800GTX512 is more like a 6800 Ultra to a 6800 Ultra-Extreme. Sure, there's a difference, and you might even notice it with the right settings and a powerful system, but it's not a huge difference.
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Originally posted by Yawgm0thYou're both right and wrong at the same time. I believe Munkul was referring to a 512MB 7800GTX, while you and the Tweaktown article refer to 256MB GTXs. The difference between the 7800GTX512 and the 7800GTX is like a 6800GT to a 6800, but a 7900GTX to a 7800GTX512 is more like a 6800 Ultra to a 6800 Ultra-Extreme. Sure, there's a difference, and you might even notice it with the right settings and a powerful system, but it's not a huge difference.
mmm
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/880...gtx/index.html
they never once compared a 7800gtx 512 card there,being they sold out awhile back on em running short of that samsung memory for the 7800gtx 512 model to use.Last edited by bf2nut; 03-24-2006, 07:06 AM.Stacker830 Watercooled
windows7 ultimate 64 bit!!!
Heatkiller waterblock on intel 2500k @4.5Ghz @1.32volt
8 gigs Gskill Ripjaw ddr3 2133 @ 1.5 volts
Swiftech p655 pump,1\2 tygon
13x120 sunnons on lamptron fc3 controller,
(2)triple 120mm rads.single raptor 150(reliable)
biostar TP67XE(this mobo is amazing)
xfi-xtrememusic,klipsch ultras 5.1/500 watt amp,
sen hd-595s headphones,logitech stick mic
co0lermaster-1250 watt real pro powersupply = 99ampz!
Evga Hydro Gtx 590 on 24"Sony FW-900 at 2304x1440 80 hz = 80 solid fps 16:10 black ops!
Hi quality CRTS are built for gaming!!!O.L.E.D is the future,not Liquid Crap Displays(lcds)!
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