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  • #16
    Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    Reading reviews :D
    Last edited by ToUtSi; 04-27-2013, 11:20 AM.

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    • #17
      Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

      Well i see 2 radiators both from EK
      EKWB EK-CoolStream RAD XTX 240 Watercooling Radiator 276 x 123 x 47mm
      EKWB EK-CoolStream RAD XT 240 Watercooling Radiator 280 x 130 x 64mm
      Is it different (performance) ? or i just pick one which fit in my case?
      Also i finally want this block have a look http://www.ekwb.com/shop/blocks/cpu-...sq-nickel.html
      ALSO which is the diffirence here?

      Last edited by ToUtSi; 04-27-2013, 03:07 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

        One reservoir includes a pump, the other does not. Generally bay reservoirs are made to have a pump attached to them so you will need a pump in any case.

        You seem to have narrowed in on EK exclusively for all your parts, and that's OK but you are limiting your choices. My suggestion is still to look around at some other forums where water cooling is actively discussed in much greater detail than here, there are many, many choices available and a lot of knowledge to be gained from spending some time reading in other places than here.

        Your pic reminds me of Crete, where I spent a few weeks a long time ago.
        Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
        Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
        PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
        Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
        Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

        Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
        HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

        SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
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        • #19
          Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

          Just run 3D mark

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          • #20
            Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

            Boondocks is giving you excellent advice.
            How much clearance is there between the inner top of your case to the upper portion of your memory?
            Keep in mind that a 240mm radiator will be 25mm thick or thicker.
            Standard radiator fans will be ~25mm thick.

            note: Check to see if the power supply's 8-pin EPS12V power cable will interfere with a 240mm radiator with attached fans.

            Zalman Z11 Plus computer case

            The next picture looks like it's using:
            • Asus Z77 Sabertooth
            • Corsair H100 AIO cpu water cooling: radiator dimensions: (L) 275mm x (W) 122mm x (H) 27mm
            • Corsair Graphite 600T


            from from techPowerUp! Forums - View Single Post - ASUS Sabertooth Z77 vs Asus P8Z77-v Deluxe
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            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
            Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
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            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
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            • #21
              Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

              From top to ram is 5 cm and from top to mobo top is 3 cm

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              • #22
                Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                In post #17, you described two possible radiators, one is 47mm thick and the other is 64mm thick.
                Even if your memory is only 30mm tall, you might have problems.
                It looks like mounting a radiator and 25mm thick cooling fans inside your case is going to be a real challenge.

                Please provide a link to your specific memory kit on the manufacturer's website.
                Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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                • #23
                  Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                  Is a kingston hyperx KHX1333c9d3b1/4g cant find link in english only in greek :D
                  http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...-cid-1772.html Check this there are one with 3 mm but is hardware labs i dont know if is a goodone
                  Another idea is to put one single in bottom and another one in back how about this?
                  Last edited by ToUtSi; 04-29-2013, 06:25 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                    The 3 Hardware Labs models have the following dimensions:
                    316 x 153 x 31.3 mm
                    153 x 55.9 x 316mm
                    153 x 54 x 316 mm
                    Will your case work with a radiator that is 316mm long?

                    When you say one single radiator in the bottom and one in the back do you mean one 140mm radiator next to the power supply and another 140mm radiator attached to the outside back of your case where the exhaust fan is now located?
                    I think that the bottom radiator/fan position will interfere with the power supply cables.
                    Can the top of your computer case be removed? If yes, could you mount a 140mm x 280mm long radiator in this area?

                    The only way to tell if any component is good or bad is to find several different reviews in well known sites.
                    Customer reviews have some value but you don't know the experience level of the customer who wrote the review.

                    Have you spent any timing searching for really good water cooling websites where they have detailed water cooling guides and reviews? It's even better if they have their own forums.

                    **edit**
                    I easily foun the data sheet for your memory at http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX1333C9D3B1_4G.pdf
                    Your memory is 30mm tall.
                    Last edited by profJim; 04-29-2013, 08:56 AM.
                    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                    .

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                    • #25
                      Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                      I dont want remove the top of casei want rad inside at top or somewhere else not outside of the case we should find one thin .......Reading reviewss....

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                      • #26
                        Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                        Look what i found :D
                        REVIEW
                        PRODUCT It has pump right? :/
                        I will pick this !!!
                        This BLOCK
                        Still Looking for radiator watching reviews,reading etc.
                        Also have no idea about my gpu full plate cover i was wondering if there is any brand which makes one cause ek not support except you mod your plate....

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                        • #27
                          Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                          The product link that you provided says:
                          Price: From $89.95 to $279.95

                          Product Description

                          The Maelstrom 5 1/4" Dual Bay Reservoir is an advanced, versatile, and elegant coolant storage & recirculation system capable of operating either as a standalone unit, or with a single or a dual MCP35 class pump (MCP350, 355 or 35x).

                          The product is available in 5 versions:
                          • Basic standalone reservoir
                          • With factory pre-installed MCP35X housing (no pump) for DIY upgrade purposes.
                          • With factory pre-installed MCP35X2 housing (no pump) for DIY upgrade purposes.
                          • With factory pre-installed single PWM controlled MCP35X pump.
                          • With factory pre-installed dual PWM controlled MCP35X pumps.

                          Click on the Support tab and you can download the installation guide in English, French or Spanish.
                          This type of bay reservoir will take up two 5.25" front panel bays.

                          The TweakTown review says:
                          There is one last type of reservoir that you will find widely available, and that is a bay res with the pump either completely built into the reservoir, or with others, you can mount one or even two pumps to it depending on the needs of the user. Not very often do you see more of a line-up approach to this concept though, and that is exactly what Swiftech is offering in the latest of its reservoirs. This design was built in three flavors, there is a standalone unit, there is a single pump variation, and yet a third version with the ability to house two pumps for that extra push in longer or more restrictive loops.

                          I really like your outdoor reading area.
                          If I had a scenic area like yours, I'd probably never get around to buying hardware because I'd spend all my time reading.
                          OCN Water Cooling Club And Picture Gallery has a lot of information and pictures, but the thread has 4228 pages of posts.

                          A web search using zalman z11 plus water cooling might provide some useful information.

                          Read reviews for your video card to find out if your video card uses a reference printed circuit board (pcb) or a custom pcb.
                          This will let you know if a gpu water cooling block will work as is or if the block will need to be modified.
                          A cooling fan will probably be needed to cool the video card's memory and VRM's.

                          Looking at pictures of your computer case, it looks like the radiator length might be limited to 240mm because a longer radiator might interfere with hardware that is installed in the top two drive bays of your computer case.

                          You might be able to use a 120mm wide radiator and fans that are more than 50mm thick, where this setup will not interfere with your memory. Even if this setup will work, I think that you will not be able to remove or install your memory unless you first disconnect your radiator and fans from the computer case.

                          The U.S. Post Office has a cardboard box that is 218mm long, 138mm wide and 44mm deep.
                          Using a box similar to this will help you determine what the best size is for your radiator and fan setup.
                          I doubt that you will be able to use a radiator/fan setup that is 140mm wide because of interference with your memory.
                          Last edited by profJim; 05-01-2013, 04:59 AM. Reason: spelling
                          Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                          P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                          4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                          MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                          Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                          WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                          Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                          SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                          Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                          Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                          Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                          MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                          Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                          HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                          CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                          E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                          Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                          Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                          HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                          .

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                          • #28
                            Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                            You dont believe it but i read it up to 10 times :D
                            I think that too with the box i will make one to have a look :D

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                            • #29
                              Re: WaterCooling Ideas &amp; Suggestions

                              CPU TEMP 30-33 Celcius
                              PUMP 980 rmp
                              FAN 1182 rpm
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