No announcement yet.

Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

    Haven't broken 200 gflops quite yet.....but it seems to be stable with current settings.
    Click image for larger version

Name:	Linx.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	120.2 KB
ID:	753890
    Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
    Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
    PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
    Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
    Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

    Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
    HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

    SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
    SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

    Comment


    • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

      Forgot this....

      Click image for larger version

Name:	gtl set.GIF
Views:	1
Size:	97.7 KB
ID:	753891
      Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
      Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
      PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
      Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
      Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

      Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
      HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

      SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
      SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

      Comment


      • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

        Originally posted by Acebmxer View Post
        Not sure if I fully understand your question, but yes setting 42x cpu multi will be better over stock. I am not sure if you can set cpu multi to 42x with out touching any voltages. It should do it but the bios may over volt if voltages are left on auto as posed to manually setting voltages.

        You will always get more performance from a cpu then you will get from memory. If I test ram at 2800mhz vs 2133mhz the gflop difference is probably about 2-4 gflops different. yet raising from 4.2ghz to 4.5ghz will give you something like 10 or so gflops. These are just rough estimates not true numbers.
        Originally posted by wazza300 View Post
        any overclock will be a performance boost over stock
        Thanks to both of you. Basically, my question was to see if by just setting only CPU Core Ratio to 42, while leaving ALL other options to Auto, there would be any realizable advantage/effect over stock 34. I asked because I am still not yet too sure of how to set the other options, and would not like to do so w/o fully understanding the implications. Likewise, I was thinking that some options may run well only when set together with other options, so I wanted to know if just increasing the Core Ratio ALONE would have some significant effect if it was the only one set to a higher value.

        I see, so just doing this will already raise my voltages (and therefore heat) if left at Auto. What particular voltages should I watch for, and at what max values should I look at w/o jeopardizing the system?

        Also, it's currently set to 42 and running fine (but not sure of the max acceptable voltages yet). Perhaps to advance a little more, could I still possibly increase the CPU ratio a little further without touching the other options? What could I watch for if I do this? Thanks.
        Last edited by sherpa25; 09-01-2013, 09:21 PM.
        Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF (BIOS: F10)
        Intel i5-4670k (@4.2)
        GSkill (2x8GB) @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 1.50v (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
        CM 212X CPU Cooler
        MSI GTX970 4GB
        Plextor PX-128M5P 128Gb SSD (Win7-x64)
        Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 2TB HDD
        WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB HDD
        Lite-On iHES112 BD-ROM
        LG Flatron IPS234V
        XFX 650W CE

        Cougar Volant Case
        Logitech DFGT/G27

        Comment


        • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

          ^If you set up CPU multi x42.....Vcore on Auto is a way so high......my set to 1.325V and less then 1.200V is need to be stable.
          Edit:
          To be precise, Vcore 1.1850V with memory on XMP (2933) is enough to pass latest LinX 0.6.5....
          all other Auto.....

          Last edited by stasio; 09-02-2013, 12:57 AM.

          Comment


          • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

            Ok, thanks statio. My auto VCore is at 1.3V when CPU ratio is at 42. How do I test, in what increments do I decrease VCore until I determine stability?
            Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF (BIOS: F10)
            Intel i5-4670k (@4.2)
            GSkill (2x8GB) @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 1.50v (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
            CM 212X CPU Cooler
            MSI GTX970 4GB
            Plextor PX-128M5P 128Gb SSD (Win7-x64)
            Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 2TB HDD
            WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB HDD
            Lite-On iHES112 BD-ROM
            LG Flatron IPS234V
            XFX 650W CE

            Cougar Volant Case
            Logitech DFGT/G27

            Comment


            • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

              Yes,sure.....decrease voltage....till LinX fail.
              ....1.250V....and bellow.

              Comment


              • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                Testing w/ LinX now. Why is it BIOS suggests to set Uncore to 'same or higher' value as Core Ratio, but in screenshots I see here of Tweaklauncher have Uncore less than VCore? (ex. statio shows vcore=42/uncore=40, and boondocks in the previous page shows vcore=45/uncore=39).
                Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF (BIOS: F10)
                Intel i5-4670k (@4.2)
                GSkill (2x8GB) @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 1.50v (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
                CM 212X CPU Cooler
                MSI GTX970 4GB
                Plextor PX-128M5P 128Gb SSD (Win7-x64)
                Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 2TB HDD
                WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB HDD
                Lite-On iHES112 BD-ROM
                LG Flatron IPS234V
                XFX 650W CE

                Cougar Volant Case
                Logitech DFGT/G27

                Comment


                • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                  Originally posted by sherpa25 View Post
                  Testing w/ LinX now. Why is it BIOS suggests to set Uncore to 'same or higher' value as Core Ratio, but in screenshots I see here of Tweaklauncher have Uncore less than VCore? (ex. statio shows vcore=42/uncore=40, and boondocks in the previous page shows vcore=45/uncore=39).
                  When Uncore is untuched = left at default 35x or 34x they should be considered Auto. If you want to disable Auto set uncore to 1 less or more then default, so if your default uncore is 35x (4770k) set to 34x or 36x. Default/Auto will overclock to 40x depending on cpu multi.

                  Yeah I dont know why bios says to keep uncore = to Cpu speed. This is fine a lower overclocks but at higher speeds it gets hard to keep uncore even with cpu speed. My cpu uncore maxes out around 42x and do higher but need alot more voltage to get there and performance does not scale with uncore as it does with cpu speed.
                  Last edited by Acebmxer; 09-02-2013, 10:45 AM.
                  Main Rig
                  Gigabyte z87x-OC
                  Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
                  G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
                  Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
                  Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
                  HiS ATI HD 6950
                  Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
                  Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
                  Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
                  Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
                  CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
                  Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
                  EK Supremacy Cpu Block
                  Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
                  Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




                  Comment


                  • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                    Like Ace says...what were they thinking? LOL. But he explained pretty well, I think.
                    For my x45 overclock, a 39x uncore requires about 1.10v ring. Setting higher doesn't do anything for me unless I pile on more voltage....at least in benchmarks.

                    But now that I'm delidded I'll be trying higher OC and will see how the uncore scales for my cpu....
                    Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
                    Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
                    PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
                    Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
                    Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

                    Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
                    HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

                    SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
                    SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

                    Comment


                    • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                      Originally posted by Acebmxer View Post
                      When Uncore is untuched = left at default 35x or 34x they should be considered Auto. If you want to disable Auto set uncore to 1 less or more then default, so if your default uncore is 35x (4770k) set to 34x or 36x. Default/Auto will overclock to 40x depending on cpu multi.

                      Yeah I dont know why bios says to keep uncore = to Cpu speed. This is fine a lower overclocks but at higher speeds it gets hard to keep uncore even with cpu speed. My cpu uncore maxes out around 42x and do higher but need alot more voltage to get there and performance does not scale with uncore as it does with cpu speed.
                      Originally posted by boondocks View Post
                      Like Ace says...what were they thinking? LOL. But he explained pretty well, I think.
                      For my x45 overclock, a 39x uncore requires about 1.10v ring. Setting higher doesn't do anything for me unless I pile on more voltage....at least in benchmarks.

                      But now that I'm delidded I'll be trying higher OC and will see how the uncore scales for my cpu....
                      I see. I also just saw the part in sin's Haswell OC guide that 'Haswell's cache has twice the bandwidth' so it's not necessary to set Uncore speed to CPU.

                      So with VRing set to Auto, I can set it to +1 at 35.

                      Latest issue now (LinX 0.6.5) is temp, as mine reached 95+C just at 42x Core (Vcore=1.185) and 35x Uncore ratio. Guess my air (212X coolmaster) isn't doing much good :( What's the peak temp I should consider? Any difference if I set Problem Size and Memory to 'All' or set them to what specific values?

                      Any need to set Loadline calib to any other than Auto (i.e. Medium)?
                      Last edited by sherpa25; 09-02-2013, 11:27 AM.
                      Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF (BIOS: F10)
                      Intel i5-4670k (@4.2)
                      GSkill (2x8GB) @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 1.50v (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
                      CM 212X CPU Cooler
                      MSI GTX970 4GB
                      Plextor PX-128M5P 128Gb SSD (Win7-x64)
                      Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 2TB HDD
                      WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB HDD
                      Lite-On iHES112 BD-ROM
                      LG Flatron IPS234V
                      XFX 650W CE

                      Cougar Volant Case
                      Logitech DFGT/G27

                      Comment


                      • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                        Yes when testing with LinX you should have memory set to all to fully stress the system. I recommend 5-10 runs for short stability test and 15-20 runs for max stability.

                        As for max temp I would try to keep core temp to around 80c-90c. If you have not delidded your cpu and your on air and at 4.2ghz then your doing pretty good. If you feel up to the challenge and delid the cpu and use Liquid pro on the core that will drop temps around 15c-30c right there, but haswell really needs to be watercooled.

                        I have been playing with LLC with the Z87-OC board and while I do not see a drop in vcore use lower LLC, I did see a drop in stability. I recommend setting LLC to extreme and all other PWM phase setting to extreme.


                        Vcore = Cpu speed/Cpu multi
                        Vring = Uncore. possibly bclk?
                        VSA = qpi/vtt = memory overclocking
                        VCCIN = primary input voltage can be left on auto
                        All other voltage can be left on auto until you really want to try and push the system.

                        Max voltages

                        Vcore max on air keep eye on core temp. You will max out core temp before vcore on AIR. On water Keep under 1.5v also keep eye on core temps
                        vring = I want to say around 1.25v-1.30v
                        VSA = 0.40v I believe

                        Please correct me if I am wrong about max voltages.
                        Last edited by Acebmxer; 09-02-2013, 12:35 PM.
                        Main Rig
                        Gigabyte z87x-OC
                        Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
                        G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
                        Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
                        Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
                        HiS ATI HD 6950
                        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
                        Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
                        Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
                        Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
                        CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
                        Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
                        EK Supremacy Cpu Block
                        Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
                        Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




                        Comment


                        • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                          Thanks Ace!

                          Longer testing w/ the same, current settings: just at 42x Core (Vcore=1.185) and 35x Uncore ratio, and LLC=Medium, temps reached 100C already! The rest stock at Auto.
                          What do I adjust to lower my temps? I really just want to have more performance than stock (even a little, as long as stable) with my current setup and have no plans to move from air to water.
                          Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H-CF (BIOS: F10)
                          Intel i5-4670k (@4.2)
                          GSkill (2x8GB) @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 1.50v (F3-1600C9D-16GXM)
                          CM 212X CPU Cooler
                          MSI GTX970 4GB
                          Plextor PX-128M5P 128Gb SSD (Win7-x64)
                          Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 2TB HDD
                          WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB HDD
                          Lite-On iHES112 BD-ROM
                          LG Flatron IPS234V
                          XFX 650W CE

                          Cougar Volant Case
                          Logitech DFGT/G27

                          Comment


                          • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                            You can try your same settings but test with this LinX 0.64.zip. This uses AVX instead of AVX2 which will not stress the cpu as hard which will be cooler and will require less volts.

                            AVX my cpu needs 1.210v for 4.5ghz and 1.330v for 4.7ghz
                            AVX2 my cpu needs 1.330v for 4.5ghz and tried up to 1.400v for 4.6ghz (bsod in under 2 min)

                            So I give up on AVX2 and nothing I use will stress my system as bad as that does.
                            Main Rig
                            Gigabyte z87x-OC
                            Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
                            G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
                            Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
                            Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
                            HiS ATI HD 6950
                            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
                            Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
                            Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
                            Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
                            CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
                            Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
                            EK Supremacy Cpu Block
                            Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
                            Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




                            Comment


                            • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                              Here is the voltage chart Sin0822 posted at OCN:

                              Click image for larger version

Name:	Haswell Voltage.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	128.2 KB
ID:	753896

                              For the whole article by Sin on overclocking Gigabyte/Haswell:
                              The Gigabyte Z87/Haswell Overclocking(OC) Guide

                              Remember that any changes from stock are at your own risk! Also, Intel sells cpu replacement insurance for only $25, not a bad deal.
                              Home Page
                              Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
                              Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
                              PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
                              Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
                              Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

                              Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
                              HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

                              SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
                              SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

                              Comment


                              • Re: Haswell Overclocking Guides / Results

                                Originally posted by boondocks View Post
                                Here is the voltage chart Sin0822 posted at OCN:


                                For the whole article by Sin on overclocking Gigabyte/Haswell:
                                The Gigabyte Z87/Haswell Overclocking(OC) Guide

                                Remember that any changes from stock are at your own risk! Also, Intel sells cpu replacement insurance for only $25, not a bad deal.
                                Home Page
                                Thanks Boondocks for posting the chart.

                                Just remember warranty and insurance are only good if cpu has not been delidded.
                                Main Rig
                                Gigabyte z87x-OC
                                Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
                                G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
                                Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
                                Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
                                HiS ATI HD 6950
                                Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
                                Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
                                Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
                                Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
                                CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
                                Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
                                EK Supremacy Cpu Block
                                Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
                                Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X