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  • EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

    Hi guys,

    I'm having trouble setting my memory (CORSAIR 1600C7DHX 2x1 GB DDR3) to run at 1600 MHz using Gigabyte EP45T-DS3R and Intel Q9450.
    I've set the FSB to 400 MHz and the multiplier at 4 but i keep getting triple boot failure.

    Please help me out

    This is the link to my memory information

    Motherboard: EP45T-DS3R: Rev#: latest:
    Cpu: Q9450
    Power Supply Unit: Corsair, Model#, Wattage 650 W

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [8x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] <-- ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3200 <-- this is set by your bios

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [?400]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Enabled]

    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter] //don't know what this is so i left it as it is
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [???]
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [???]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to STANDARD when overclocking

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [4] <-- this is the setting that you are using
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [1600]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : [20]

    Advanced Timing Control // also don't know what this does
    tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- ?.????? ---- : [Auto]

    CPU Termination --------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]
    CPU PLL ----------------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

    CPU Reference ----------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]
    CPU Reference2 ---------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH Reference ----------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ ?.???V ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    ICH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ ?.???V ------- : [1.9]
    DRAM Termination -------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]

  • #2
    Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

    Are you using the latest BIOS? I see you mention latests, but wasn't sure if that meant BIOS or not?

    Try these settings

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [8x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] <-- ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3200 <-- this is set by your bios

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [?400]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Enabled]

    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter] //don't know what this is so i left it as it is
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [???] << What value do you see? We need to know, this is important to us
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [???] << What value do you see? We need to know, this is important to us
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to STANDARD when overclocking

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [4] <-- this is the setting that you are using < Set 4.00B, you may need to use 3.33D and a higher FSB to reach 1600Mhz, not all memory will allow you to run B choices with 400+ FSB
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [1600]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
    tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : [20]

    Advanced Timing Control // also don't know what this does
    tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] << Be sure this is at least 72 for now
    tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK << Set 2T for now

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking << Set highest value, or 1066 if 1333+ fails

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] << Set to 8-9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] << Set to 8-9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled] < <Enabled
    CPU Vcore --------------- ?.????? ---- : [Auto] DO NOT USE AUTO When overclocking, find and set your own amount. Maybe 1.25-1.36

    CPU Termination --------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto] << Set 1.25-1.4
    CPU PLL ----------------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

    CPU Reference ----------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]
    CPU Reference2 ---------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto] << Try setting 1.18-1.22
    MCH Reference ----------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ ?.???V ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    ICH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ ?.???V ------- : [1.9]
    DRAM Termination -------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]

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    • #3
      Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

      Thanks i'll go and try some other settings and write them down.

      I downloaded the latest BIOS from the Gigabyte site

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      • #4
        Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

        Ok here are the settings i tried and failed:


        MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
        Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
        CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [8x]
        Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] <-- ignore if not available
        CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3200 <-- this is set by your bios

        Clock Chip Control
        Standard Clock Control
        CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
        CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [?400]
        PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

        C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

        Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter] //don't know what this is so i left it as it is
        CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [800] << What value do you see? We need to know, this is important to us
        PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [900] << What value do you see? We need to know, this is important to us
        CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]
        MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [???]

        DRAM Performance Control
        Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to STANDARD when overclocking

        (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
        System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [4.00D] <--i have 4.00A, B, C and D available. I tried B and D but i don't think it matters wich one it is (for now it's on 3.33D because it is the highest that works)
        Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [1600]
        DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

        Standard Timing Control
        CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [7]
        tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
        tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [7]
        tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : [20]

        Advanced Timing Control // also don't know what this does
        tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
        tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
        tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
        tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [72] << Be sure this is at least 72 for now
        tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
        Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [2] <--- Auto or 0 is OK << Set 2T for now

        Driving Strength Profiles
        Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking << Set highest value, or 1066 if 1333+ fails// dont' have this option

        Channel A
        Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9] << Set to 8-9 for now
        tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
        tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
        Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

        Channel B
        Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9] << Set to 8-9 for now
        tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
        tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
        Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
        Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
        Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

        Motherboard Voltage Control
        CPU
        Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
        Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled] <
        CPU Vcore --------------- ?.????? ---- : [1,200
        CPU Termination --------- ?.???V* ----- : [1,240] << Set 1.25-1.4
        CPU PLL ----------------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

        CPU Reference ----------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]
        CPU Reference2 ---------- ?.???V* ----- : [Auto]

        MCH/ICH
        MCH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [1,180] << Try setting 1.18-1.22
        MCH Reference ----------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
        MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ ?.???V ------ : [Auto]
        ICH I/O ----------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
        ICH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]

        DRAM
        DRAM Voltage ------------ ?.???V ------- : [1.9]
        DRAM Termination -------- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
        Channel A Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]
        Channel B Reference ----- ?.???V ------- : [Auto]


        In order to boot i had to change memory multiplier to 3.33D. Also i set latencies to 7-7-7-20
        but memset shows differently

        http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1967/41975040.jpg

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        • #5
          Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

          How did it fail? Fail to boot, fail to load windows, fail inside windows? Any BSOD Codes, if you get BSOD look on the left side of the screen for the 0x00000000 code, or if vista/win 7 tell me the code shown to you after a reboot.

          About your memory timings, what does CPU-z show in the Memory tab?

          There is not a 4.00D strap option. Which memory multi you choose does matter, a lot. Which is why I suggested the ones I did.

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          • #6
            Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem



            It failed to boot. i tried all 4.00 miltiplier options and it wouldn't boot

            I took a picture so you can see i have 4.00D as an option

            http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6376/dsc00011pv.jpg
            Last edited by mdax51222; 03-30-2010, 12:22 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

              Hmm, looks like a buggy BIOS to me. There isn't a 4.00D option, so don't use that one.

              Your settings look very wrong, if you are setting 777-x in the BIOS then that is failing and the board is reverting to defaults. Do you see a red warning box when you enter the MIT Section of the BIOS?

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              • #8
                Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                I only see it when i try to boot with 4.00X options selected, when i select 3.33D it has no trouble booting and there is no warning in the MIT section

                I'm using F3 version of BIOS. The only thing newer than that is F4a beta BIOS and i don't really want to use that one while it is beta stage of development
                Last edited by mdax51222; 03-30-2010, 12:43 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                  Ya, that is likely because that is a bug and should not be a setting available to you.

                  You can use 4.00B though, but it may or may not work for you and that memory or your voltage wishes.

                  Beta BIOS are the best, they are the ONLY ones I ever use. I suggest you update to that, it will have fixes and improvements that you may be waiting a long time to see if you wait for the final. When there is no issues found with a beta it is simply renamed anyway to a final, so basically you would be waiting for nothing if no issues are found with that beta (Which I have not heard or noticed).

                  Either way, even if that 4.00D is in the new BIOS it should not be. You will have to use 3.33D with a higher FSB or 4.00B if you can get it to work

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                  • #10
                    Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                    Thanks for your help so far

                    Do you maybe know what would be the reason why i can't use x4 multiplier with this memory, it doesn't really make sense why would it crash?

                    Can i change samo other settings and try to make it work with 4.00B or is increasing the FSB my only alternative?

                    Could you please explain what do those leatters after the multiplier mean? For instance what is the difference between 4.00A and 4.00B?

                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                      Well the straps are NB Speed and timings, in regards to your CPU's FSB. The lower the strap speed means tighter timings on the NB, higher strap speed means looser timings but faster speeds (More stable)

                      some memory just will not work on lower than FSB Strap, like using 3.20B with 450 FSB. Sometimes this will not work depending on the memory itself, or the timings and voltages used may need to be more extreme.

                      Here is all the straps and what FSB they go with



                      More FSB is not going to make it work with 4.00B, I mean that's not going to help. More FSB will help you reach your desired speed with 3.33D though.

                      Did you update your BIOS yet?

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                      • #12
                        Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                        yes i did and am now trying to get it to run stable at 450 FSB but no luck so far, most i got was 420. When i set it at 450 it boots without a problem but it freezes just before the windows login screen. I tried setting Vcore up to 1,3V. do you think i should change that or MCH and CPU termination (i'm not really sure what those are)

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                        • #13
                          Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                          Ahh ok, you just need to use more Vcore and possibly other voltages as well. 1.3 may not be enough at all for 450 FSB.

                          Try 1.35-1.45 and then if you still don't have any luck post me your latest full settings that fail and let me know how it fails. And any BSOD Codes if you get them.

                          MCH Maybe 1.2 would be plenty, Vtt (CPU Term) may need 1.25-1.35

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                          • #14
                            Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                            Ok thanks for your help. I'll try it when i find some free time and post the final settings for future reference

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                            • #15
                              Re: EP45T-DS3R RAM settings problem

                              OK, good luck with the tweaking and testing!

                              Let us know how you get along

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