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    I built a new system using the GA-EP45-UD3R, a Q6600 processor, and 8 gigs of ram. I overclocked it to 3.0ghz with the default voltage and everything was fine except that the system took a long time to power down after choosing to shut it off (it would log out of windows, monitor would shut off, but the system power would stay on for another minute before shutting down). I decided to upgrade to the F4 BIOS (was on F3) to see if this would make any difference.

    The flash went fine and all was well. Booted up the system, loaded optimized defaults and then changed my setting back to where they were before. Ran the system fine for several hours. However, today, I turn on the system and it booted up at 9 X 400. Went into the BIOS and my settings were still the same. Changed it back to 9 X 266 and the system boots up at 9 X 317. Also, the memory is running at 952 (2:3) even though I set it to run at 667.

    So basically, the BIOS is ignoring my settings. I've loaded optimized defaults several times, but it still does the same thing. What should I do?

  • #2
    Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

    Well, I solved the original problem I was having. I read somewhere else to unplug the power cable and plug it back in if BIOS settings weren't matching what I was seeing in Windows. Sure enough, this worked. Unfortunately, now I'm having lots of other problems that I'm trying to figure out. The screen will freeze after running Prime95 for a few minutes and the motherboard is making the "short continuos beeps" noise which is supposed to indicate a power problem.

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    • #3
      Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

      how many beeps is system making?

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      • #4
        Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

        I'm not sure, I never counted. I would guess 8. I'm typing this message on the computer right now. After the 8 beeps process happens about 10-20 times, I can get back into Windows. All runs normal until I try Prime95 and the screen freezes, then I have to manually power the system down and we're back to the 8 beeps cycle.

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        • #5
          Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

          so problem only happens when you use prime95? Have you tried increasing your CPU Voltage? Also have your run Memtest? Test your memory?

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          • #6
            Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

            Many short beeps ususally means a Power issue as you said, but that often can be power OR incorrect voltages or ram timings.

            8GB of ram is not going to work on Auto, as you likely know. And do keep in mind all BIOS's are different so if you last settings were stable you still may have to tweak them again this time around after your flash

            Let us see what you are using and We'll see what we can advise >>>

            Please do also give us a link to your exact ram used. Thanks

            This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

            Code:
            MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
            Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
            CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
            Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
            CPU Frequency ...........................: 
            
            
            Clock Chip Control 
            Standard Clock Control
            CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
            CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
            PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
            
            C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
            
            
            Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
            CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
            PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
            CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
            MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
            
            
            DRAM Performance Control
            Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
            Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
            (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
            System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
            Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
            DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
            
            Standard Timing Control
            CAS Latency Time........................
            tRCD .........................................
            tRP'...........................................
            tRAS..........................................
            
            Advanced Timing Control
            tRRD...........................................
            tWTR..........................................
            tWR............................................
            tRFC...........................................
            tRTP...........................................
            Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
            
            Driving Strength Profiles
            Driving Strength ............................
            
            Channel A
            Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
             tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
            tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
             tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
             tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
            Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
            Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
            Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
            Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
            Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
            Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
            
            Channel B
            Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
             tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
            tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
             tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
             tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
            Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
            Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
            Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
            Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
            Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
            Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
            
            Motherboard Voltage Control
            Voltage Type.………... Manual
            CPU
            CPU Vcore….……….........................:
            CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
            CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
            
            CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
            
            CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
            
            MCH/ICH
            MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
            MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
            MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
            ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
            ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
            
            DRAM
            DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
            DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
            Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
            Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
            
            Advanced Settings
            Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
            No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
            CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
            C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
            x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
            CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
            CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
            Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
            
            Integrated Peripherals
            Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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            • #7
              Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

              Here is the memory I am using: Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB &#40;2 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 &#40;PC2 6400&#41; Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

              I did leave most of the voltages on auto. The only changes I made were to set the CPU to the VID (1.2875) and the DRAM Voltage to 1.9. I have been reading many of your posts on why the other memory and MCH Core voltages need to be increased.

              The situation has changed from when I first posted, as I've been testing for hours. I started testing the system using one stick of memory at a time and found that it wouldn't post with one of the sticks. All of the others load fine and don't give any errors on 1 pass of Memtest+ and also pass IntelBurn Test. I would think it is time to chalk it up to a bad memory stick and move on.

              My concern is that I was able to pass the built in Vista Memory tester and I ran Prime95 for 5 hours without a problem when I had all 4 sticks installed. I've never dealt with a bad memory stick before. Is it common that I would be able to pass the Vista Memory diagnostic, but then have the stick die the next day?

              Is it possible or likely that there is a different problem going on that caused the initial freeze and when the system loaded using settings that I had not specified that it fried the one stick with it's overclocked settings?

              Perhaps it was the inadequate voltage with the auto settings that caused the initial freeze and led to the subsequent problems?

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              • #8
                Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

                Ok, I've been running tests all day. I haven't had any issues today or ever when I did not have the stick of ram inserted that is now bad. I've run many passes of IntelBurn Test and have passed a few MemTest+ runs. I'm going to leave MemTest+ running overnight.

                I'd still appreciate if someone would answer the questions in my previous post.

                Here are the BIOS (f3) settings that I'm currently using. Are there any changes that I should make now or will need to make once my bad ram is replaced? I'm currently running 2 x 2 gigs and will be running 4 x 2.

                Code:
                MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
                Robust Graphics Booster ...............:  [Fast]
                CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9]
                CPU Frequency ...........................:  266 x 9
                
                Clock Chip Control 
                Standard Clock Control
                CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
                CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [266 Mhz]
                PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
                
                C.I.A.2 .................................: [Disabled]
                
                
                Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
                CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV 
                PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
                CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
                MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps 
                
                DRAM Performance Control
                Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
                (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
                System Memory Multiplier ..............: [3.00A]
                Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
                DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
                
                Standard Timing Control
                CAS Latency Time........................ 5 [5] 
                tRCD ......................................... 5 [5]
                tRP'........................................... 5 [5]
                tRAS.......................................... 18 [18]
                
                Advanced Timing Control
                tRRD........................................... 3 [Auto]
                tWTR.......................................... 3 [Auto]
                tWR............................................ 6 [Auto] 
                tRFC...........................................  42 [Auto]
                tRTP........................................... 3 [Auto]
                Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0 [Auto] 
                
                Driving Strength Profiles
                Driving Strength ............................ [Auto]
                
                Channel A
                Static tRead Value.........................: 5 [Auto]
                 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
                tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
                 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
                 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
                Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 [Auto] 
                Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 [Auto] 
                Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 5 [Auto] 
                Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 [Auto] 
                Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                DDR WRITE Training....................:[Auto]
                
                Channel B
                same as Channel A
                
                Motherboard Voltage Control
                CPU
                Load-Line Calbiration….……….........................: [Disabled]
                CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.28750V [1.28750V]
                CPU Termination…..... .......: 1.200V [Auto]
                CPU PLL…………………...........:1.500V [Auto]
                
                CPU Referen.…………...........:0.760V [Auto] 
                
                MCH/ICH
                MCH Core……………................:1.100V [1.240V] 
                MCH Reference….……............: 0.760V [Auto]
                MCH/DRAM Ref.….................:0.900V [Auto]
                ICH I/O……………….................: 1.500V [1.500V]
                ICH Core…………...……............:1.100V [Auto]
                
                DRAM
                DRAM Voltage ……................: 1.800V [1.820V]
                DRAM Termination .…............: 0.900V [Auto]
                Channel A Reference............:  0.900V [Auto]
                Channel B Reference............: 0.900V [Auto]
                
                Advanced Settings
                Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
                No-Execute Memory Protect............:Enabled
                CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: Disabled
                C2/C2E State Support....................: Disabled
                CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........:Enabled
                CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled
                Virtualization Technology................: Disabled
                
                Integrated Peripherals
                Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............Disabled

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                • #9
                  Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

                  Yes, it is possible as those test depending on how long you ran them and how may hav never used the bad bits in the one dead stick

                  For sure sounds to me like you should RMA the set that had a bad one, be sure you get the same model as a replacement

                  This would be optimal for 2x2 >>>
                  Code:
                  MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
                  Robust Graphics Booster ...............:  [Fast]
                  CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9]
                  CPU Frequency ...........................:  266 x 9
                  
                  Clock Chip Control 
                  Standard Clock Control
                  CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
                  CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [266 Mhz]
                  PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
                  
                  C.I.A.2 .................................: [Disabled]
                  
                  
                  Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
                  CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV 
                  PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
                  CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps << 50-150 See below
                  MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps <<< 50-250 can help with stability when you have 8GB or overclock at all
                  
                  DRAM Performance Control
                  Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
                  (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
                  System Memory Multiplier ..............: [3.00A]
                  Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
                  DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
                  
                  Standard Timing Control
                  CAS Latency Time........................ 5 [5] 
                  tRCD ......................................... 5 [5]
                  tRP'........................................... 5 [5]
                  tRAS.......................................... 18 [18]
                  
                  Advanced Timing Control
                  tRRD........................................... 3-4
                  tWTR.......................................... 3-6
                  tWR............................................ 4-6
                  tRFC...........................................  38-42
                  tRTP........................................... 3-5
                  Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2
                  
                  Driving Strength Profiles
                  Driving Strength ............................ [Auto] << 800/1066 Benchmark both
                  
                  Channel A
                  Static tRead Value.........................: 5 [Auto] << 5-8
                   tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
                  tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
                   tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
                   tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
                  Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 [Auto] 
                  Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 [Auto] 
                  Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 5 [Auto] 
                  Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 [Auto] 
                  Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                  Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                  DDR WRITE Training....................:[Auto]
                  
                  Channel B
                  same as Channel A
                  
                  Motherboard Voltage Control
                  CPU
                  Load-Line Calbiration….……….........................: [Disabled]
                  CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.28750V [1.28750V]
                  CPU Termination…..... .......: 1.200V [Auto]<<< If you overclock EVER manually set 1.2-1.5
                  
                  CPU PLL…………………...........:1.500V [Auto] << If you overclock EVER Set this manually to stock or less
                  
                  
                  CPU Referen.…………...........:0.760V [Auto] 
                  
                  MCH/ICH
                  MCH Core……………................:1.100V [1.240V] << 1.24-1.28
                  MCH Reference….……............: 0.760V [Auto]
                  MCH/DRAM Ref.….................:0.900V [Auto]
                  ICH I/O……………….................: 1.500V [1.500V] <<< 1.5
                  ICH Core…………...……............:1.100V [Auto] << 1.1x-1.2
                  
                  DRAM
                  DRAM Voltage ……................: 1.800V [1.820V] <<< 1.8-1.9
                  DRAM Termination .…............: 0.900V [Auto]
                  Channel A Reference............:  0.900V [Auto]
                  Channel B Reference............: 0.900V [Auto]

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                  • #10
                    Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

                    Thanks for the suggestions. I'm more concerned with stability than getting every bit of performance out of the system, so should I worry about messing with the Driving Strength Profiles and the Channel A/B Timing settings?

                    You said the above settings would be optimal for 2x2. Would you suggest that I make changes to your above settings when I get the replacement RAM back and am running 4x2?

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                    • #11
                      Re: GA-EP45-UD3R not using my BIOS settings

                      Yes, Static tRead Value has the MOST impact on performance then any other setting. Aside from MAIN timings, so at least try to set that as low as you can with some testing as you go

                      Yes, 8GB will need a higher set of timings, for sure more trfc, and maybe more trtp, twr, twtr, and likely more MCH Voltage and MCH Skew

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