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  • Is my system Underperforming?

    Hello I am running a system with these specs and believe that my computer is under performing:

    Intel C2D E8400
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
    Xigmatek HDT-S1283
    2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold (OCZ2G8004GK)
    625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
    Radeon HD 4870x2
    Western Digital SE16 640GB
    Antec P182 SE
    Samsung 245BW 24" LCD

    I noticed that I can't run games on the settings reviews say i should be fine with. Mainly Farcry 2. I decided to do a SuperPi and wPrime tests at stock clock and for 1M in superpi I average around 23seconds and wPrime 32m I get 60s. These values seem a bit high to me compared tot he reviews I have read. I have recently recieved a new CPU from intel because i thought this was a CPU problem however it still exists!. I have tried two sets of OCZ ram however still around the same results.

    My friend has the same cpu /mobo/HD however different GPU and memory, he gets around 11 seconds @ 4.0ghz. Could this be bios settings or a hardware issue?

    I have set all my bios settings all to auto except for timings which is the recommended 5 5 5 18 @ 2.1v
    Last edited by kawai; 12-03-2008, 10:51 PM.
    Intel Q9550
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
    Xigmatek HDT-S1283
    2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
    625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
    Radeon HD 4870x2
    Western Digital SE16 640GB
    Antec P182 SE

  • #2
    Re: Is my system Underperforming?

    Your system is definitely underperforming. I am able to max out Far cry2 at 1440x900 with no AA and as you can see from my sig, my system is worse than yours.

    Are you on xp or vista?
    Last edited by soldier; 12-03-2008, 10:53 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Is my system Underperforming?

      I'm on Vista 64 bit, damn this is frustrating
      Intel Q9550
      Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
      Xigmatek HDT-S1283
      2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
      625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
      Radeon HD 4870x2
      Western Digital SE16 640GB
      Antec P182 SE

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      • #4
        Re: Is my system Underperforming?

        What about other games besides far cry 2? Is your video card good?What about your memory?

        Have you ran memtest or 3Dmark?

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        • #5
          Re: Is my system Underperforming?

          yeah i cant even max L4D or TF2... I have an old x1900xt i can try swapping.. Whats concerning to me mainly is the superpi and wprime. they should be faster around 15-17 seconds in superpi..

          Intel Q9550
          Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
          Xigmatek HDT-S1283
          2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
          625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
          Radeon HD 4870x2
          Western Digital SE16 640GB
          Antec P182 SE

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          • #6
            Re: Is my system Underperforming?

            run memtest. make sure ur ram is good.

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            • #7
              Re: Is my system Underperforming?

              Ill try that, I have been testing with two ram kits though, both from OCZ, and 1 i recently got back from an RMA. OCZ2G8004GK is the 4gb (2x2gb) kit where OCZ2VU8002GK ist he 2gb (2x1gb) kit

              Could any1 with the similar setup try running superpi and tell me your results? 3.0 stock e8400 with ga-ep45-ds3r?
              Last edited by kawai; 12-04-2008, 02:42 AM.
              Intel Q9550
              Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
              Xigmatek HDT-S1283
              2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
              625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
              Radeon HD 4870x2
              Western Digital SE16 640GB
              Antec P182 SE

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              • #8
                Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                Well you are comparing your system at stock to others that are overclocked right? That is no comparison

                Please give me a link to your ram, and how much of it you are using and then fill this in with what you are using and I will advise. But if you are at stock, then there is likely not much you can improve alot, maybe some ram timings >>>

                This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

                Code:
                MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
                Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
                CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
                Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
                CPU Frequency ...........................: 
                
                
                Clock Chip Control 
                Standard Clock Control
                CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
                CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
                PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
                
                C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
                
                
                Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
                CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
                PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
                CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
                MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
                
                
                DRAM Performance Control
                Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
                Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
                (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
                System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
                Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
                DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
                
                Standard Timing Control
                CAS Latency Time........................
                tRCD .........................................
                tRP'...........................................
                tRAS..........................................
                
                Advanced Timing Control
                tRRD...........................................
                tWTR..........................................
                tWR............................................
                tRFC...........................................
                tRTP...........................................
                Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
                
                Driving Strength Profiles
                Driving Strength ............................
                
                Channel A
                Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
                 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
                tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
                 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
                 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
                Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
                Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
                Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
                Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
                Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                
                Channel B
                Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
                 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
                tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
                 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
                 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
                Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
                Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
                Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
                Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
                Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
                
                Motherboard Voltage Control
                Voltage Type.………... Manual
                CPU
                CPU Vcore….……….........................:
                CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
                CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
                
                CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
                
                CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
                
                MCH/ICH
                MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
                MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
                MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
                ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
                ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
                
                DRAM
                DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
                DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
                Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
                Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
                
                Advanced Settings
                Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
                No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
                CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
                C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
                x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
                CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
                CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
                Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
                
                Integrated Peripherals
                Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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                • #9
                  Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                  yes i understand that my friend's computer is OC'ed thus his 10/11 seconds of calculation for superPI, however from some reviews i have read an e8400 @ stock 3.0ghz should get somewhere around 15seconds.. mine is at 23seconds for 1M calculation :(

                  He is gonna go back to stock and then benchmark again for my purposes...
                  Intel Q9550
                  Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
                  Xigmatek HDT-S1283
                  2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
                  625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
                  Radeon HD 4870x2
                  Western Digital SE16 640GB
                  Antec P182 SE

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is my system Underperforming?



                    Intel Q9550
                    Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
                    Xigmatek HDT-S1283
                    2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
                    625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
                    Radeon HD 4870x2
                    Western Digital SE16 640GB
                    Antec P182 SE

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                      I switched to a 4550 cuz i thought that maybe the 4870x2 was drawing too much power on my psu. I also disabled c1e and eist to test again.
                      Even worse scores for 3d vantage mark , i only ran CPU tests.

                      Intel Q9550
                      Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R(F10)
                      Xigmatek HDT-S1283
                      2x2GB DDR2 800 PC6400 OCZ Gold
                      625W MODU+82 Enermax PSU
                      Radeon HD 4870x2
                      Western Digital SE16 640GB
                      Antec P182 SE

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                        WOW, that is odd! Your realtemp score is only half stock of a normal one?

                        I dont know stock vantage CPU Score, but here is mine at 4Ghz (8174 Points CPU) >>>
                        ORB - World of Performance

                        Tomorrow afternoon I will SuperPI and RealTemp test mine at stock for you and see what I get, you may have a faulty CPU... Have you pushed alot of volts(Vcore or Vtt) into it or left Vtt or PLL in Auto at a high overclock?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                          Man that looks very wrong. I'm really sorry for you, it must be very disappointing.

                          My E8400 stock @ FSB 333MHz x9 = 3GHz does SuperPI 1M in about 15.6s. I'm running a GA-P35-S3G mobo, 2x1GB Geil Black Dragon @ 333MHz x3.2 = 1066MHz, 5-5-5-15, and WinXP 32 bit.

                          3Dmark06 score with HD 4850 also stock is about 11500.

                          Your performance really looks wrong. Even if SuperPI was heavily dependant on memory (which I suspect it isn't) I wouldn't expect that much difference due to slower memory. Here's some test suggestions that may narrow down the problem:

                          1. Thoroughly test your memory with Memtest86+ (boot from CD or floppy).
                          2. Test your CPU passes the Intel Burn Test at stock settings.
                          3. If you have disk space for another boot partition then set up a new WinXP 32 bit install and try that.
                          4. If you have access to a compatible system (a friends maybe) then try swapping your memory and testing. Then try swapping CPU and testing. That might narrow down where the problem is.

                          Good luck.
                          Intel E8400 E0 3GHz @ 4.0GHz (444x9) stable (provisionally), max 4.4GHz (489x9), Zalman CNPS 9700 (core temp 46c @ max load @ 4.0GHz),
                          Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G F5b BIOS + 40mm fan on MCH, Geil Black Dragon DDR2-PC8500C5 (2x1GB) @ 1066MHz (444x2.4)
                          Sapphire ATI HD 4850 Dual Slot Cooler (64c @ max load), Dell 3007WFP 30" (2560x1600)
                          Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Samsung 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 16MB cache, LG GH22LP20 22x DVD+/-RW
                          Corsair TX 650W, Antec Three Hundred + 2x120mm front fans, WinXP SP3 Home

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                            Speaking ab out 3dmark scores.. I think mine is wrong as well.. I'm not sure..

                            i get like 48XX with 3dmark 06.. is that.. ok? :|

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is my system Underperforming?

                              A list of SuperPI 1M scores here for reference purposes:
                              Super Pi 1m scores - techPowerUp! Forums
                              Intel E8400 E0 3GHz @ 4.0GHz (444x9) stable (provisionally), max 4.4GHz (489x9), Zalman CNPS 9700 (core temp 46c @ max load @ 4.0GHz),
                              Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G F5b BIOS + 40mm fan on MCH, Geil Black Dragon DDR2-PC8500C5 (2x1GB) @ 1066MHz (444x2.4)
                              Sapphire ATI HD 4850 Dual Slot Cooler (64c @ max load), Dell 3007WFP 30" (2560x1600)
                              Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Samsung 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 16MB cache, LG GH22LP20 22x DVD+/-RW
                              Corsair TX 650W, Antec Three Hundred + 2x120mm front fans, WinXP SP3 Home

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