GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

[Stanzilla]

Yeah I was wondering why they did not release F33J as final yet. It seems really stable for most people

[skynetDE]

I don't understand why some people never even try a beta posted on the main GB download sites.

The average gamer is not afraid of losing some Steam / Epic / Whatever installations. But people, including me, who are working and earning their money with their computer are indeed.

Most people just can not afford losing data and/or cause harm to their PC.

[jwsg]

Exactly. If the PC is just a box to play games then the impact of changing configuration is minimal but for those who have invested time and money into the PC and rely on it then just trying out random betas without seeing release notes or good quality user feedback is what I dont understand.

[schilperoordbas]

F33j works fine on my X570 Master. Might as well be a stable version indeed. Gigabyte likes to take its time with publishing them, which is understandable given that they don't want people ending up with issues. You never know when an issue might come up.

[Waltc]

The average gamer is not afraid of losing some Steam / Epic / Whatever installations. But people, including me, who are working and earning their money with their computer are indeed.

Most people just can not afford losing data and/or cause harm to their PC.

Flashing a bios does nothing to your installed programs or games--there's no way it can. You cannot lose a game installation/program/data by installing a bios...;) If you do, you've assuredly done something other than flash the bios! But I agree that people who don't have a clear understanding of what they are doing probably should not do much until they learn a few basics. Your post reminds me of people fearful of game mods--same kind of unfounded fears keep them away. But I do agree that if you believe that flashing a bios can cause you to lose installed programs then you should definitely not engage in it. Still, hands-on is the only way to learn your way around the block, really.

[Vainmundane]

Quick question for b550i owners here. Looking to build my computer next coming week. Been looking at these forums for a while now, waiting for a non beta f13, however it seems likely that mobo manufacturers will skip AEGSA 1.2.0.2 all together. Raises the question, should I flash F12 (last non beta bios) or F13i (supposed fixes to USB/BT/LAN issues reported here) for my new mobo? All advice welcome, if people are still sticking to f12 with work arounds/less issues that it appears let me know!

Thanks everyone!

[Waltc]

Exactly. If the PC is just a box to play games then the impact of changing configuration is minimal but for those who have invested time and money into the PC and rely on it then just trying out random betas without seeing release notes or good quality user feedback is what I dont understand.

Well, there is nothing "random" about the betas GB posts on the main GB site. BTW, F33j on the main GB site does have release notes attached. As I mentioned, GB never puts them there unless they believe they are stable enough to help their customers. Lots of beta bios builds come to the Tweaktown site here that never get to see the light of day on the main GB download sites--because they are not stable enough to merit placement on the main GB download sites. A very basic lesson anyone who sticks with computer tech for any length of time learns very early on: so called "final" versions of bioses or of programs and games are not and never will be bug free. (My x570 Aorus Master came with bios F3 22 months ago and in linear fashion has progressed to F33j--all the "final" bios versions up to now, like F30, F32, etc. weren't "final" at all.) Every chip, every processor, every piece of software ever made has bugs! However, some are buggier than others, certainly...;)

I am not recommending that people afraid of flashing should flash, only pointing out that there's no rational reason to be afraid of it. But then, if you don't wish to flash at all then best advice is to wait about a year after new CPUs and chipsets are released, because otherwise you will have to do quite a bit of bios flashing if you want a stable, useful system. It's the nature of the beast whenever new CPU architectures and chipsets are released.

The only caveat about the practice of bios flashing that I observe is that I will never buy a motherboard without mechanical dual bios switches again. You might not be able to ruin your installed data or programs when bios flashing--but if by some hook or crook you install the wrong bios--a bios made for another motherboard--you can brick your motherboard...;) However, using GB's Q-flash +, it's now possible to overcome even that sort of careless mistake even without a dual bios. Additionally, bios installing routines like Q-Flash are smart enough these days to prevent you from inadvertently installing the wrong motherboard's bios. With the last few GB bios versions for my motherboard, the bios versions won't even let me install the previous bioses' settings files! It seems to me they've idiot-proofed the procedure as much as possible. imo.

[fl1ppyXD]

Hi, am i blind or all Power Limit(Package,platform) settings hidden in Z390 - Gaming SLI latest bios (F10k)
Also i dont see any option to disable virtualization.

[boXerrumble]

Quick question for b550i owners here. Looking to build my computer next coming week. Been looking at these forums for a while now, waiting for a non beta f13, however it seems likely that mobo manufacturers will skip AEGSA 1.2.0.2 all together. Raises the question, should I flash F12 (last non beta bios) or F13i (supposed fixes to USB/BT/LAN issues reported here) for my new mobo? All advice welcome, if people are still sticking to f12 with work arounds/less issues that it appears let me know!

Thanks everyone!

For stability purposes, I'd highly recommend F13i over F12 if you have the B550i board.

[Hammerkeg]

I'm pretty sure people here don't mean losing files by flashing BIOSes directly, but unstable BIOSes causing crashes leading to data-loss. I too use my PC for work, and I either have to deal with low performance of old BIOSes, missing features of a bit more recent ones (like USB issues) and instability of the current one.

[skynetDE]

But I agree that people who don't have a clear understanding of what they are doing probably should not do much until they learn a few basics. Your post reminds me of people fearful of game mods--same kind of unfounded fears keep them away. But I do agree that if you believe that flashing a bios can cause you to lose installed programs then you should
definitely not engage in it. Still, hands-on is the only way to learn your way around the block, really.

This is not the point. I've been building PCs since 20 years, starting at times where you had to fiddle around with IRQs, terminators and Master/Slave configurations in order to have a working PC.
The thing is: Fiddeling around with the BIOS (and reverting back / clearing the CMOS etc.) is just a huge time sink. Every hour that you have to waste on this stuff is lost and you'll never get it back. If you're old enough, you might understand it ;)

You never know which harm a BIOS update might cause to your computer, thats why they are all flagged with "use with own risk". And comparing them to Mods? Meh. Apples and pears....

[hansmuff]

This is not the point. I've been building PCs since 20 years, starting at times where you had to fiddle around with IRQs, terminators and Master/Slave configurations in order to have a working PC.
The thing is: Fiddeling around with the BIOS (and reverting back / clearing the CMOS etc.) is just a huge time sink. Every hour that you have to waste on this stuff is lost and you'll never get it back. If you're old enough, you might understand it ;)

I'm old enough, and I do agree with you. SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T1 is forever implanted in my brain.
That said -- there's an issue here with AGESA quality. AMD is taking too long to fix basic issues like USB reliability. I know this is a Gigabyte forum, and it isn't Gigabyte's fault at all. But it *SEEMS* to me that prior builds I had with Intel boards were less fussy. I'm still sticking with Ryzen for performance, but man, AMD has to invest more money in the firmware area.

[Vainmundane]

For stability purposes, I'd highly recommend F13i over F12 if you have the B550i board.

Yeah, I think I'll stick with that then. Are you using the most recent drivers for all/everything else that's posted on the GB site? I've heard something along the lines of people using latest drivers from Intel's site for BT/LAN, which are you currently using?

Also you mentioned previously that the most recent windows update caused USB stability issues, is that still the case or are you still on the previous version after uninstalling the update.

Much appreciated, thank you! :)

[baldersz]

New Intel Bluetooth drivers were released today, sadly they didn't fix the bluetooth dropouts for me.

[jwsg]

Yeah, I think I'll stick with that then. Are you using the most recent drivers for all/everything else that's posted on the GB site? I've heard something along the lines of people using latest drivers from Intel's site for BT/LAN, which are you currently using?

Also you mentioned previously that the most recent windows update caused USB stability issues, is that still the case or are you still on the previous version after uninstalling the update.

Much appreciated, thank you! :)

Its easy to mix up the various issues and what a BIOS does affect and what it doesnt

BIOS doesn't affect the LAN issue - thats driver. Until now disabling various settings made the connection stable but there is a new 10.050 driver to try
USB issues will be improved by the F13i over F12 as it has the newer AGESA
BT disappearing and needing power unplugged is h/w related but people have seen improvements with the latest BIOS - maybe its able to reset the glitch during startup

I'm sticking with F12 because I use a BT dongle and other work-arounds for these issues and I'm waiting for a non-beta for the reasons discussed above.
But for a new build I would go for the latest F13i for the B550i