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I have two bios's for Z690 Aorus Elite AX DDR4
F27 New Bios Layout
F27 Fixes Event ID 56 that has been present on all Gigabyte Motherboards Since Z490 has finally been fixed (I have been harassing them about this one since 2020 and it seems they finally fixed it by accident)
F28a Fixes tRFC being locked out
F28b Fixes Event Log 37 (E Cores Being throttled in firmware Warning)
WHEA on cold boot for Realtek Nic PCIE Root Port (From No Power not shutdown or reboot)
Still Present Gigabyte Blame the driver but Z390 Aorus Master doesnt do it so no its not a driver
Its a bad PCH setting in the eufi that on first boot gets fixed by windows
Gigabyte pointed out that Asus Z690/Z790 boards with Realtek nic's also do it
Doing the spider man meme isnt a solution now is it
They say to use the Realtek Driver from 2019 that doesnt trigger this event log entry
this also isnt a fix Z390 is just fine on the latest drivers with no event log entry
If you have a Realtek Nic on a Z690/Z790 nic and want to trigger this for your self pull the power then plug it back in
once it boots check the event log and you will have a WHEA
I suspect all Z690/Z790 Boards will require these fixes
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AdiSimpson is right, of course, and I pull the following commentary...
From my perpetual, "It's a good idea to..." column, (running for the last three decades, or thereabouts...;)) A good practice is to install the security fix and then forget about it for a couple of weeks and just run your software as usual. If you find yourself abused beyond the measure of civilized men everywhere, then by all means, uninstall the patch to resume your life of bliss and harmony. (No party-pooper am I!)
But in my case, suddenly it dawned on me that my software was continuing to run fine and according to my expectations with the dreaded security patch *gasp* installed!--how 'bout that? From the "Will these wonders never cease?", section. Another way of looking at it dawned when I discovered I never suffered the depredations of the damned as a result of recently installed security patches, despite the woe-is-me, slow-news-day prognostications of utter doom surrounding a just released security fix that seems to slow down the mid-game frame-rate of a particular "encounter" by .000056% or .000001%, depending on which benchmark you use, which OS, which GPU, which GPU drivers, which motherboard bios version, etc., and so on, ad infinitum. It's like the people who agonize with lots of nervous hand-wringing and brow sweat because their ~4.5GHz CPU might lose 50MHz if they have to lower the bclk from 1900Mhz to 1867MHz in order to achieve total hardware stability...;) The attitude often seems to be that the extra 50Mhz is more valuable and important than the entire ~4.45 GHz before it!
Every time security patching comes up, it's the same old song and dance. Every time. It's also remarkable to note that when security patches are mentioned in the context of "always slowing something down," which isn't always true in my experience, what always happens later is never mentioned--and that is, that if a certain security patch does actually materially slow things down to the point that it is distinctly noticeable, then in every case I can recall, a later version of the patch is released which restores most, if not all, of the original performance.
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Originally posted by AdiSimpson View PostSecurity Fixes are always Performance degrading.It goes from barely measurable, to clearly noticeable.
depending on the Application.
Everyone must consider for themselves whether they need these fixes.
Nevertheless no reason to panic ;)?
EPYC@Zen3
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...rformance-drop
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...bo_v2_pi_120b/
I decided to upgrade to AGESA 1.2.0.B on my Xtreme and ran some benches before and after the update of the BIOS (I kept 1.2.0.A on the backup chip and saved myself a copy as Gigabyte pulled them from the site).
My observations are limited but point to minimal hits to typical consumer software and are as follows:- Geekbench 6 AVX2 is essentially unchanged between BIOS and within the margin of error.
- 3dMark Time Spy and the CPU Profiler results are essentially identical with no change.
- Red Dead Redemption 2 benchmark mode is where things get interesting and I see a slight performance hit to the tune of 2.5% as the benchmark completes at an average frame rate of 194 fps on AGESA 1.2.0.B vs the 199 fps on AGESA 1.2.0.A, maximum fps is in the low 300's and essentially unchanged as is the minimum fps (multiple runs were made with nothing running in the background and the game was set to absolute potato mode to create a CPU bottleneck with 1024x768 resolution and the absolute lowest graphics settings possible).
While I realize that these observations are limited, I think that we should not concern ourselves too much with excessive gaming performance loss and because the BIOS has other fixes, I have decided to stay on the new AGESA 1.2.0.B.?
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Security Fixes are always Performance degrading.It goes from barely measurable, to clearly noticeable.
depending on the Application.
Everyone must consider for themselves whether they need these fixes.
Nevertheless no reason to panic ;)?
EPYC@Zen3
Tests on wide variety of workloads completed on an Epyc / Linux system show up to 54% drop in performance.
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Originally posted by skynetDE View Post
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Originally posted by skynetDE View Post
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Originally posted by hooliehannajnd View PostHi can anyone please provide f38f bios for AORUS ELITE x570 please, or the last f38 they have before f38g. Thanks
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Originally posted by cyberloner View Post
that's sound like incompartible ram for amd chipset.... add more vdimm voltage or loss some timing while choosing the xmp setting...
tweak some timing and memtest
suggest using micron ram chipset always work super with amd...
on Corsair werbsite, they say: "Optimized for peak performance on the latest Intel and AMD DDR4 motherboards.?"
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Hi can anyone please provide f38f bios for AORUS ELITE x570 please, or the last f38 they have before f38g. Thanks
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Originally posted by Waltc View PostThe default for the bios is CSM enabled--I also think they should change it to disabled--thought that for years. x570 Aorus Master, 3900X, on F37g now, but was on F37f--no crashes on either. But if you are losing your bios every time your system crashes, that is really a very hard crash, and I would definitely set all of your clocks back to default & ram to stock XMP timings and voltages. Stability is a very nice thing to have, I've found...;) I haven't had your problem, but I don't crash. It may be your GPU overclock, or it may be something in your bios, or both. A simple software crash will as a rule not also bring down the bios--when the bios crashes, and you lose it, that's indicating there's a setting that causes problems there under the right conditions.
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X570 Aorus Pro Rev 1.0, 1.1, 1.2
F37g
Sep 21, 2023- Checksum : 5DD7
- Update AMD AGESA V2 1.2.0.B
- Fix AMD processor vulnerabilities security
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The Realtek 2.5Gb/s Win10 10.68 driver also now has a "Not Support Power Saving" version https://www.realtek.com/en/component...press-software - just as the Win 11 1125.15 version has - also without any detail to help choose between the two variants
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The default for the bios is CSM enabled--I also think they should change it to disabled--thought that for years. x570 Aorus Master, 3900X, on F37g now, but was on F37f--no crashes on either. But if you are losing your bios every time your system crashes, that is really a very hard crash, and I would definitely set all of your clocks back to default & ram to stock XMP timings and voltages. Stability is a very nice thing to have, I've found...;) I haven't had your problem, but I don't crash. It may be your GPU overclock, or it may be something in your bios, or both. A simple software crash will as a rule not also bring down the bios--when the bios crashes, and you lose it, that's indicating there's a setting that causes problems there under the right conditions.
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