GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

[zerowing]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

Why don't you ask Statio to mod a bios for you, if you think that what you say is the problem, im sure Statio can update the microcode and firmware and even more stuff.

Although the modules can be updated in a non-official way, any major BIOS settings couldn't be reprogrammed/changed if needed. Only the OEM has access to many technical documents to know what should be changed in their BIOS code to comply with any changes in the Intel updated modules.
So yes it might be a simple fix, although other manufacturers BIOSes should be checked to see who released the 70E latest CPU Microcode update just to extract it, or it might be something more complex.

Also with manual updates of Intel ME Firmware the warranty for the board could be affected, I doubt the OEM wouldn't tell that you as the customer didn't follow the official BIOS updates.. metadata is used to track everything in BIOS too, the OEM could easily check.

And Gigabyte as an OEM manufacturer for Intel CPUs and chipsets must release all Intel updates to its customers. Intel gives OEMs the updates to ensure that end-users can get them. But if an OEM fails to do it, it's the OEM fault.

Well, I am surely going to contact Intel too directly and on their support forum.
I will follow the advice and write about the issue on more forums.
However it's a shame that a customer as to do anything like this.
I never had a previous Gigabyte motherboard with such serious issues,if any at all. Current Gigabyte managers have managed ruining Gigabyte overall products and support quality clearly.

[profJim]

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Is you reply for real or are you trying to make a fun of me, perhaps ?

My reply is 100% serious.
We are here to help others find solutions to their problems.

[boe323]

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I do know how you feel, the g1 assassin2 board has the same issues, ive resorted to modded bios', I probably get 1 or 2 freezes a month at the moment, I get more data corruption now though, actually I think its stopped now with the latest irst rom and driver, but yes, the x79 boards from gigabyte are very poor, I cant afford to build a new system at present so im stuck with it, I wont be choosing gigabyte again I can assure you.

[zerowing]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

I do know how you feel, the g1 assassin2 board has the same issues, ive resorted to modded bios', I probably get 1 or 2 freezes a month at the moment, I get more data corruption now though, actually I think its stopped now with the latest irst rom and driver, but yes, the x79 boards from gigabyte are very poor, I cant afford to build a new system at present so im stuck with it, I wont be choosing gigabyte again I can assure you.

I am seriously considering buying an ASUS X89 board in the next months. It would be the first Gigabyte motherboard in 15 years that I will be forced to trash. With the X89 boards being released in a few weeks switching to an ASUS X79 at this point would be a waste of time and money anyway. At least the X89 should have all the "old" CPUs patches included and the latest Intel ME Firmware installed too.
Surely I won't be buying another Gigabyte motherboard to get more serious stability issues at this point.

But until then I will try to get Gigabyte managers attention as much as possible. It's just insane that they refuse to provide the updates that Intel releases itself, as an OEM for Intel technologies they are obliged to, but they refuse to regardless. For this reason I am going to contact Intel too to inform them about the situation. Yes they could still tell me "it's up to the OEM we can do nothing" but if they do that then it would mean that marketeers got back in charge at Intel just like in the atrocious Pentium4 Prescott/Tejas era in which Intel was going bankrupt.

[Peakr]

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I am seriously considering buying an ASUS X89 board in the next months.

I've been disappointed with my x79 as well, fortunately for me no freezing. I had data corruption problems for a year on one of my storage drives until the iRST "BETA" bios came out (THAT'S 8 MONTHS OLD NOW). My x-fi xtrememusic card drops out about every 3 days and I have to reinstall the driver to get the sound back, however this card has no problems at all in any other motherboard. I've never had problems with previous non-uefi gigabyte boards. It is clear that Gigabyte does not have the skill to program its UEFI bios correctly. For these reasons I will NOT be buying a gigabyte next time. I've had bad luck with asus in the past but at this point that x89 is looking good.

[sardelkin]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

New BIOS:
GA-X79-UD3 - F12u
- 29.May-24.Jun 13

This BIOS already includes all latest ROMs ?

[1000moths]

Re: F6K Bios

@1000moths, Uncore adjustment was broken in the early bios's so might not be loading the system the same way as the newer fixed bios's..... I wouldn't expect the newer bios's to run the same with like for like voltages giving the extra CPU load.

You were right my friend, the F6 was pushing the uncore up to x40. I dropped it back to x34 and 4.7ghz stable with less volts :D

I'm running Prime and max temp is 65 degrees!!!

Now time to sneak the uncore up step by step til I find it's happy max.

F6K does seem to be a winner so far, I was too hasty.

@boondocks, you should persevere with this version so far it's working great now I know what i'm doing lol

[1000moths]

Re: F6K Bios

So I spoke too soon with my enthusiasm for f6k. Things were looking pretty sweet, however after playing Grid 2 for a while I had a full crash, and couldn't get stable at any voltage following that, even at stock speeds! Then whenever I entered the BIOS I was just getting the blank wallpaper, nothing else, even following a CMOS clear. After reflashing F5 I was getting constant boot loops in Win8 and ended up having to reinstall completely.

Not sure exactly what the cause was but it's back to F5 and running completely stable at x47 x39 uncore and a +0.01 offset.

Not going to bother with anymore beta's and will wait for F7 full release.

[Amurtigress]

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@zerowing:

You've got my support there. Pleas emake SURE to make clear that Gigabyte's ENTIRE X79 board series is affected by this negligence. I'm using the UD5 and haven't seen a BIOS update since january...I am seriously concerned about IB-E support here.

As for the ASUS X89 boards, I'd believe there is no actual X89 chipset yet, it's just a name? I don't expect a new chipset for socket 2011 to be released beyond X79

[boondocks]

Re: F6K Bios

So I spoke too soon with my enthusiasm for f6k. Things were looking pretty sweet, however after playing Grid 2 for a while I had a full crash, and couldn't get stable at any voltage following that, even at stock speeds! Then whenever I entered the BIOS I was just getting the blank wallpaper, nothing else, even following a CMOS clear. After reflashing F5 I was getting constant boot loops in Win8 and ended up having to reinstall completely.

Not sure exactly what the cause was but it's back to F5 and running completely stable at x47 x39 uncore and a +0.01 offset.

Not going to bother with anymore beta's and will wait for F7 full release.

When you have to do a cmos clear, go ahead and pop the battery out for a few seconds. It may save you doing extra work. Also I've been told that when flashing bios because of major problems you can cut the power as it power cycles, pull the battery, replace it and boot up for a very thorough clearing out of the bios.

[zerowing]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

@zerowing:

You've got my support there. Pleas emake SURE to make clear that Gigabyte's ENTIRE X79 board series is affected by this negligence. I'm using the UD5 and haven't seen a BIOS update since january...I am seriously concerned about IB-E support here.

As for the ASUS X89 boards, I'd believe there is no actual X89 chipset yet, it's just a name? I don't expect a new chipset for socket 2011 to be released beyond X79

I took a look at latest roadmap news and while months ago I remember sites rumors on an X89 chipset the latest leaked Intel roadmaps are telling that there is no X89 chipset at all for the upcoming
LGA2011 IvyBridge-E new CPUs that are going to be released in September.
The Intel roadmap is listing "X79 with IvyBridge-E support" and that it's far from clear. Is it going to be an X79 Revision2 release or something like that and so the current X79 chipset motherboards are going to be phased out and outdated anyway? So will manufacturers release new X79 Rev.2 motherboards with IvyBridge-E support or will they just upgrade all current X79 products to latest Intel updates to ensure full compatibility with IvyBridge-E ?
That is the big question now.
Roadmaps do show the X99 chipset release for the Haswell-E but in 2014 with a new socket version. What is Intel going to do this time with the X79 chipset and without an X89 chipset release it's currently unknown at this point. OEMs surely should know that but due to NDA they would never tell the public or let the info leak.

Intel's Desktop Processor Roadmap for H2 2013 to H1 2014 Revealed | techPowerUp




Long live Haswell: With Broadwell only in 2015, a midterm refresh is on the cards - VR-Zone

AnandTech | Rumors on Ivy Bridge-E: 3 SKUs, September Release?

[Krobar]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

I've been disappointed with my x79 as well, fortunately for me no freezing. I had data corruption problems for a year on one of my storage drives until the iRST "BETA" bios came out (THAT'S 8 MONTHS OLD NOW). My x-fi xtrememusic card drops out about every 3 days and I have to reinstall the driver to get the sound back, however this card has no problems at all in any other motherboard. I've never had problems with previous non-uefi gigabyte boards. It is clear that Gigabyte does not have the skill to program its UEFI bios correctly. For these reasons I will NOT be buying a gigabyte next time. I've had bad luck with asus in the past but at this point that x89 is looking good.

More likely a Creative problem (These days they have some of the worst drivers). I saw the same issue on an Iwill DPK66S (Not UEFI) and my GA-X79-UD5.

[Krobar]

Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

I took a look at latest roadmap news and while months ago I remember sites rumors on an X89 chipset the latest leaked Intel roadmaps are telling that there is no X89 chipset at all for the upcoming
LGA2011 IvyBridge-E new CPUs that are going to be released in September.
The Intel roadmap is listing "X79 with IvyBridge-E support" and that it's far from clear. Is it going to be an X79 Revision2 release or something like that and so the current X79 chipset motherboards are going to be phased out and outdated anyway? So will manufacturers release new X79 Rev.2 motherboards with IvyBridge-E support or will they just upgrade all current X79 products to latest Intel updates to ensure full compatibility with IvyBridge-E ?
That is the big question now.
Roadmaps do show the X99 chipset release for the Haswell-E but in 2014 with a new socket version. What is Intel going to do this time with the X79 chipset and without an X89 chipset release it's currently unknown at this point. OEMs surely should know that but due to NDA they would never tell the public or let the info leak.

Intel's Desktop Processor Roadmap for H2 2013 to H1 2014 Revealed | techPowerUp




Long live Haswell: With Broadwell only in 2015, a midterm refresh is on the cards - VR-Zone

AnandTech | Rumors on Ivy Bridge-E: 3 SKUs, September Release?

I know for sure that the new Supermicro 2.0 bios for their dual Xeon boards support Ivybridge-EP in most cases on all PCB revisions. The same should be true for the related X79 platform, Intel intend to offer drop in compatibility for Ivybridge-E with existing platforms; if Gigabyte cant support Ivybridge-E with just a bios update then they have either severely screwed up the PCB design or just plain neglected their customers.

X89 is almost certainly BS and my guess is we will get Ivybridge-E support across all X79 models from Gigabyte.

[Andres Gonzalez Biront]

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Any news on the change log for the X79-UD3 new UEFI?

[daxgr]

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Any news on the change log for the X79-UD3 new UEFI?

I installed it and it seems somewhat more stable at 4.4GHz on i7-3820, I get a reboot about every 3-4h in demanding programs. But it seems I lost TPM under Miscellaneous settings... I wouldn't install it if you use BitLocker