X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

[Leesie]

Hi all
sorry for my bad english, but i give it a try. (also copy a lot from the form ;) tx THE EDGE post)
I finaly found a forum that hopeful can help me with my problem.
I read a lot of the same problems in this forum, so i give it a try over here.
I'm built a system 3 months ago like this:

Case: Antec Nine Hunderd
Motherboard: GigaByte X48T-DQ6
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Q9450 2.6GHz (12MB cache)
Processor Cooler: Scythe Mugen SCINF-1000
Memory: 2x OCZ3G13334GK total 8GB
Video: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870X2
Power: Thermaltake Toughpower CM 850W
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bits

My system runs not stable, it will always total freez.
This happens after different times. from 1 minute, half an hour, 2 hours, 8 hours, one day.

I have run memory test with no problem.
Also benchmark test with no problem.

I think that my system is the most stable with 1 Memory module (SS) in socket 1. (Running at default setting (1066Mhz)). 2Gb
Also stable with 2 Memory module (SS) in socket 1 and socket 2. (Running at default setting (1066Mhz)). 4Gb
More un-stable with 2 Memory module (DS) in socket 1 and socket 3. (but still freez) 4Gb
and most un-stable with 4 Memory module (DS) pair in socket 1 and 3, and pair in socket 2 and 4.(but still freez) 8Gb

I'm also think that when i start with a cold system the system runs for the longest time.
After the first freez i reset the system and freez wil come faster.(looks like heat problems but al temps looks fine)

I have re-flashed the BIOS with F5 and loaded the optimized default settings.
The BIOS recognizes all 8GB at 1066 with 9,9,9,20 timings.
OCZ give 1333 9 9 9 20 1.7V info on there site
OCZ Technology | Products | Memory | OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Gold Edition
But all other sites and shops give 1333 9 9 9 26 1.7V (Strange)

I try to change the follow things:(but became more un-stable)
System Memory Multiplier [4.00B]
Memory Frequency [1333]
CAS [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay [20] and [26]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [0.20] > 1.7V


So my settings are now set to default like this:

******M.I.T. Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)**********
Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [0.0]
CPU Frequency 2.66Ghz (333x8)
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency [333]
PCI Express Frequency [Auto]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Performance Enhance [Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [Auto]
Memory Frequency [1066]
Dram Timing Selectable [Auto]
*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [20]
*EDIT Default settings with 2 Memorys in socket 1 and 2 (SS)*
********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) [4]
Rank Write to Read Delay [4]
Write to Precharge Delay [8]
Refresh to ACT Delay [48]
Read to Precharge Delay [4]
Static tRead Value [9]
Static tRead Phase Adjust [22]
Comand Rate (CMD) [1]
********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]
*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [Normal]
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [Normal]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [Normal]
Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

Hopefully someone can help me with this problem.
Thanks in advance.
Leesie

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Well 8GB of DDR3 may not run stable at 1333

Here is what I would suggest, I do see Several things wrong that would for sure cause you to be unstable with 8GB. The things you need to change most are in BOLD >>>


Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [0.0]
CPU Frequency 2.66Ghz (333x8)
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency [333]
PCI Express Frequency [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [Standard] << Leave always

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.00]
Memory Frequency [1333]
Dram Timing Selectable [Manual]

*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [24]

Set to all highest below for now, then you can lower later and test as you lower them

********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) 4-6
Rank Write to Read Delay 6-12
Write to Precharge Delay 6-14
Refresh to ACT Delay 62-72
Read to Precharge Delay 4-8
Static tRead Value 9-12
Static tRead Phase Adjust AUTO << Always AUTO
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]

*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [+.2 - +0.3] = 1.7V - 1.8V
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [+0.1]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [+0.1]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [+0.25-.35] << Needed for 2x2gb or more ram
Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Whoo thanks for your fast support Lcdmaisap.

I'm going to change what your suggest, Today.

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.00] << must i use 4.00B because the 333?

Greets Leesie

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Good luck, and things may need to be higher in subtimings, so if it fails raise them a bit more.

Ya, 4.00 X 333 FSB = 1333 Ram speed

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

I have change the things you suggest (highest, but for DDR3 Overvoltage Controle [+.2]

System don't start, restart 3 times by his self.
And change:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) to [Auto] (1066Mhz)
Dram Timing Selectable (SPD) to [Auto]

System Voltage Contol is still what i had change.

So i set:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) to [Manual] (1333Mhz)
Dram Timing Selectable (SPD) to [Manual]

and DDR3 Overvoltage Controle [+.3]
All settings are now you suggest.

After restart System sytem don't start.
System freez in first bios screen, sometimes before that. (blackscreen)

So i,m going to use Clr_Cmos to get in the bios again ;)

Greetings Leesie

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

I'm back in the Bios.

Next test like this:

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [0.0]
CPU Frequency 2.66Ghz (333x8)
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency [333]
PCI Express Frequency [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [Standard]

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.00B]
Memory Frequency [1333]
Dram Timing Selectable [Manual]

*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [24]


timing 2 points higher you sad
********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) 8
Rank Write to Read Delay 14
Write to Precharge Delay 16
Refresh to ACT Delay 74
Read to Precharge Delay 10
Static tRead Value 14
Static tRead Phase Adjust AUTO << Always AUTO
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]

*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [+.2 ] = 1.7V
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [+0.1]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [+0.1]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [+0.35] Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

result:
System don't start, restart 3 times by his self.
And change:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) to [Auto] (1066Mhz)
Dram Timing Selectable (SPD) to [Auto]

System Voltage Contol is still what i had change.

lets go to next test :)

Leesie

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Next test like this:

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [0.0]
CPU Frequency 2.66Ghz (333x8)
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency [333]
PCI Express Frequency [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [Standard]

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.00B]
Memory Frequency [1333]
Dram Timing Selectable [Manual]

*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [24]


timing 4 points higher you sad
********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) 10
Rank Write to Read Delay 16
Write to Precharge Delay 18
Refresh to ACT Delay 76
Read to Precharge Delay 12
Static tRead Value 16
Static tRead Phase Adjust AUTO << Always AUTO
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]

*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [+.2 ] = 1.7V
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [+0.1]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [+0.1]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [+0.35] Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

result:
System don't start, restart 3 times by his self.
And change :
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) to [Auto] (1066Mhz)
Dram Timing Selectable (SPD) to [Auto]

System Voltage Contol is still what i had change.

lets go to next test :)

Leesie

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Next test like this:

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [0.0]
CPU Frequency 2.66Ghz (333x8)
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency [333]
PCI Express Frequency [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [Standard]

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.00B]
Memory Frequency [1333]
Dram Timing Selectable [Auto]


*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [24]


Default settings now diffrent with 4 Memorys in socket 1,2,3 and 4 (DS)
see Edit first post

Default settings are:
********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) [4]
Rank Write to Read Delay [4]
Write to Precharge Delay [8]
Refresh to ACT Delay [48]
Read to Precharge Delay [4]
Static tRead Value [8]
Static tRead Phase Adjust [0]
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]

*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [+.2 ] = 1.7V
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [+0.1]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [+0.1]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [+0.35] Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

result:
System start. (not stable freez in 15 minutes)

when i start a MemSet program, its show my that the memory runs with 1.5V.
Strange?
System Voltage Control is on [Manual]

what must i do next?


Leesie

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Memset just shows you the default voltage for your board/sticks is all. If you have 1.7 set then you will get close to that. You may need to set 1.8V to get things going.

Please choose a memory multiplier without a letter or symbol by it for now as well and try this >>>>

Do not just add to all of them, some of what you tested above was way to loose with adding 4 or whatever to each. Some will not work if they are too high

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) 6
Rank Write to Read Delay 20-24
Write to Precharge Delay 12-14
Refresh to ACT Delay 80-85
Read to Precharge Delay 13-15
Static tRead Value 12
Static tRead Phase Adjust AUTO << Always AUTO
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control 50-100ps
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle 100-200ps

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

i think a have a heat problem.
I have test a lot of setting, but almost any change from defaul settings make more unstable.
There was 1 good setting like this.

*****Standard Timing Control*******
CAS Latency Time [9]
Dram RAS to CAS# Delay [9]
DRAM RAS Precharge [9]
Precharge Delay (tRAS) [20]





********Advanced timing control:********
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) [4]
Rank Write to Read Delay [4]
Write to Precharge Delay [8]
Refresh to ACT Delay [48]
Read to Precharge Delay [4]
Static tRead Value [10]
Static tRead Phase Adjust [0]
Comand Rate (CMD) [2]

********Clock Driving & Skew Control:*************
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [Normal]
(G)MCH Clock Skew Controle [Normal]

*********System Voltage Control:**********
System Voltage Control [Manual]
DDR3 OverVoltage Control [+.3 ] = 1.8V
PCI-E Overvoltage Control [+0.1]
FSB OverVoltage Controle [+0.1]
(G)MCH Overvoltage Controle [+0.35]
Loadline Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore 1.25000V

run prime test for 2 hour, get a fault.
trying other settings, and system get more and more un-stable.
after 6 hours trying notting works stable anymore.
even the setting i use for the 2 hour prime test.
bios don't start anymore.

i shut down the system for 12 hours. (system cold again)

start the system and runs again.

Must i use a temp program?

leesie

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

run Prime95 test now.
with all fans on Max speed.

use CPUID hardware Monitor.

Intel Core Quad Q9450:
Core#0 51C-123F
Core#1 45C-113F
Core#2 49C-120F
Core#3 48C-118F

Temperatures:
TMPIN0 27C-80F (Don't know what this is?)
TMPIN1 31C-87F (Don't know what this is?)

ATI Radeon HD4870X2:
77C-169F

Harddisk 1 Samsung HD103UJ:
17C-63F

Harddisk 2 Samsung HD103UJ:
19C-66F

Harddisk 3 Samsung HD103UJ:
18C-64F

Is there a way to find more Temps?

Greetings Leesie

PS run test with Refresh to ACT Delay [64]

[Leesie]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Sorry Lsdmeasap

I give up, my system is still un-stable.

I told my problem als to the shop where my Motherboard and memory came from.

They say the Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 is a great motherboard and not my problem.
The OCZ3G13334GK is my problem the say.

I told them that i wants some Memory, thats works with out Time tuning.

The give me the Corsair 2x2GB Modules DDR3 TW3X4G1333C9 .

System runs perfect now. (Als 24hour Prime95 test)

I order a other Corsair 2x2GB Modules DDR3 TW3X4G1333C9
so lets see if the system runs also stable with 8Gb.

Thanks for your suport Lsdmeasap

greets Leesie

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Great to hear you are getting somewhere now. I personally dont like either brand for GA boards, but it is nice to see you are having better luck with the Corsairs now!

Post back anytime if you run into more issues, and I will try my best to help.

[kman3d]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

Hi,
I for long time have the same problem!
I too have X48t-DQ6 with 8GB (2GBx4) 1600 OCZ mem.
And my system is still unstable, It can work for a few days without any trouble or it can crash every couple of houres. I've tried every thing and read a lot of forums, I bought the OCZ memory cooling solution but still no luck...
I was wondering if your system is stable now after you replaced you memory to crossair?
because That's the last thing I have left to do....
(I should mantion that I run my system at 1600Mhz, and do you run it with the new mem at 1600 as well?)
Thanks!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: X48T-DQ6 issues with OCZ3G13334GK Memory

If you need help with settings let me know. Link your exact ram you are using and tell me how much you have.

And give me your settings and I will advise back some things for you to try >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8] 
Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [450] 
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

Performance Enhance = [Standard]

CAS Latency Time________________ ?
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ ?
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______?
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ ?

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ ?
Rank Write to READ Delay________ ?
Write to Precharge Delay_________ ?
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ ?
Read to Precharge Delay__________ ?
Static tRead Value_______________
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]

CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]
GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.25]

Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB