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  • Foxconn Black Ops Question

    I'm looking to try and pull a little more out of my E8500, C0, at present with a Asus P5E (BIOS RF0410), I've been using 4.5-4.7 core speed and a FSB max around 522 for benching, which isn't too bad, but have been looking for a new setup and found this over at Newegg.

    Newegg.com - Foxconn BlackOps X48 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

    Newegg.com - OCZ Flex II 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

    The reviews of the Foxconn are mixed, so is a FSB of 550+ and core speeds over 4800+ possible with Air/Water. For $310 US after rebates makes it a reasonable alternative to a CPU/MB/RAM replacement the I7 platform needs. So any opinions would greatly be appreciated.
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  • #2
    Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

    500MHz is entirely achievable, I'm running 500*8 for my 4.0GHz

    I have run 500*9 for 4.5GHz but it is too warm here at present to run at that 24/7 with air cooling, also the top limit for the overclock will depend a lot on the chip.

    I'm really quite happy with my Black Ops (I came to it from a P5E3)

    If (and it is a big if) Intel release the E8700 (3.5GHz) or the E9000 (4.0GHz) that have been speculated on then in tandem with this board they would be a viable alternative to the i7 range.

    If you do get the board try the P05 bios or the G30 & G32 (don't use the G32 if you run RAID)

    Join up to Xtreme Systems Forum as there is a wealth of info and a Foxconn Tech Support guy (saaya) who posts in the forums there.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by ANZAC_ELITE; 01-29-2009, 03:07 PM.
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    • #3
      Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

      Thanks for the info.
      Last edited by Aleslammer; 02-01-2009, 03:49 PM.
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      • #4
        Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

        Just picked up a new one from the egg for $140 shipped. Hopefully the Xtreme Systems forum will come back with all of the technical info on the board. Also it looks like Foxconn released the P06 bios for it.

        Any 1 have a recommended DDR3 1800/2000 RAM kit for it? Preferably first hand experience. Looking to run a E8600 with active cooling and a water loop for the NB.
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        • #5
          Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

          P06 at last? (I'm the thread starter at XS "Will there ever be a P06 bios")

          I must check the Foxconn site, I'm currently running G32 with my E8600 (VID 1.225) at 4.0GHz 1.25V vcore, it will do 4.25GHz at 1.325V vcore as well.

          If you have any questions post them up and I'll answer them if I can.



          EDIT: Do you have a link to the P06? It isn't on the Foxconn channel website that I can see, the only new release appears to be the G33

          Originally posted by Foxconn website
          Blackops Beta BIOS G33
          Version: VG33
          1. Update Intel RAID BIOS V8.6.0.1007. to support 1TB Hard drive for RAID Array. 2. BIOS released date: 04/01/2009. Please read the important information first, if you have RAID array in your system already. *Important*: Please backup files before BIOS update. *Important*: Please update Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager to V8.8 before BIOS update.
          Last edited by ANZAC_ELITE; 04-07-2009, 02:20 AM.
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          • #6
            Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

            Here you go:

            Foxconn - Support - Downloads

            It appears to have come out on 3/31.

            With Xtremesystems down, I can't get any good info on what memory to run. I am looking to run at 4.5~4.8 24/7 with at least 4GB RAM (Currently doing 4.275 w/ 8Gb RAM on a 750iFTW 24/7). Any suggestions?
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            • #7
              Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

              Thanks for that, the beer was blurring my vision :D

              Off hand I'd suggest i4memory forums DDR3 Ram List and look for some Micron chip based modules, maybe even post a question in the forum, eva2000 is a bit of a memory guru who may be able to steer you in the right direction. I notice a lot of XS forum posters are showing up over there too while XS is down so they may be able to give you some advice.

              What FSB are you running?

              What speed memory are you considering 1600, 1800, 2000MHz?
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              • #8
                Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                I picked up a set of these:

                Kingston HyperX KHX16000D3ULT1K3/6GX

                while I am trying to find a set using the new Elpida 2K chips or the Samsing HCF0 clocked @ PC3-2000. We'll see how they do on the Blackops.
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                • #9
                  Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                  nice, 500MHz FSB should be a good playground for you.

                  I'm a little disappointed that the 1:3.2 divider appears to be broken, I can boot and be stable on lower dividers (ram @ 1333MHz/ divider 1:2.665) with 500MHz FSB but the 1:3.2 wont boot with the memory at 1600MHz no matter what the timings/VTT voltage/NB voltage are. :(

                  I've tried G30/32/33 and P05/06 without success, maybe I should grab those 2000MHz modules too, I'll have to check the bank balance ;)
                  Last edited by ANZAC_ELITE; 04-10-2009, 10:44 PM. Reason: spelling and then beer affected editing :D :P
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                  • #10
                    Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                    Originally posted by ANZAC_ELITE View Post
                    I'm a little disappointed that the 1:3.2 divider appears to be broken
                    You might have already tried this, with my P5E depending on BIOS, certain dividers would not work. I found if I set the PL/tRd maually to 10/11 I could get that divider to post.
                    Last edited by Aleslammer; 04-14-2009, 11:55 AM. Reason: Spelling
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                    • #11
                      Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                      I haven't tried it but I may just try it.

                      I tried relaxing the memory settings (9-9-9-24, PL10) with everything else on auto and I've also tried with everything on SPD but alas it would not boot.

                      New memory sounds nice though ;)
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                      • #12
                        Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                        Well my P5E finally lost it, changed my dualie out with my Q6700 for some WPrime runs but it wouldn't post, put the quad in an old 965 MB, no problem, had some bent pins in the socket of the P5E? Decided it was time for a new board. Placed a Black Opps and two 2x1 kits of Crucial PC3 16000 in the cart and did a little looking around, Asus is giving 50 US back on the Rampage Extreme plus the price has droped a bit, flipped a coin and ended up with the RE. Still wondering if I made the right choice. The only thing for sure is the BIOS won't be alien.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                          Just an update. Using the default P05 bios.

                          I got the Kingston DDR3 PC-2000 triple channel (elpidia) in and used 2 of the 2GB sticks in the black ops at 1.648v. Had it up and runnning at 1960mhz PL6 at that voltage (e8400 @ 490x9) with 1:4(333). The best I could get it to with 1:3.2 was around 480fsb. There was a hole any higher and definitely @ 500fsb (1600). The 1:4 hole started at 491 and went up past 500fsb. Currently I am running at 4.503mhz (500x9) with the mem using 1:2666 (1333). The timings are all auto so I need to go in and tighten them up.

                          Does anyone know if the holes are different with the P06 bios?
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                          • #14
                            Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                            That's annoying for sure, the bios seems to have a lot of divider holes unfortunately :(

                            With the P06 the 1:3.2 and 1:3 dividers still have a 500MHz FSB hole for me, I haven't played around as much as you to isolate the starting point, I went straight to 500*8 with 1:3.2 for 1600MHz which was a fail so I am currently working on stabilizing 425*10 with 1:4 CPU333/400 for 1700MHz on the memory at 8-8-8-22-2N, 1.916V.

                            The only thing I'm having trouble with is Company of Heroes - Tales of Valor, but I think that may be a corrupt saved game I was using for testing as I was getting the nvidia "nvlddmkm Driver stopped responding" error. Prime95 is stable, more testing (Prime95, LinX, CoH-ToV etc) this weekend.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Foxconn Black Ops Question

                              What are your VTT, NB, and SB voltages? Mine are 1.2, 1.35, and 1.5 respectively. I was really wanting to run at 1:4 (333) to make use of the high end RAM (DDR3 2000) but I just couldn't get it stable enough for my taste. I tried rainsing VTT and NB but it didn't seem to make any difference. It may have been the mem. I kept it @ 1.648 because i didn't want to risk messing up the elpidia chips. Do you know if they can handle higher voltage safely? I was using 8-8-8-20-1T L6 @ 1960 which is pretty tight, all things considered. Currently it is running very stable at 450*9 using 1:4(333) with decent, but untweaked, mem settings.
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